Its far less about socialist vs capitalist and much more about the fact that people dont care about people around them so theyre willing to fuck each other over.

We used to let our kids play. We let them go out and roam around with their fellows, to go to other homes and the woods and fields. It's because we trusted eachother. We knew our fellows, our friends and kin, and knew they'd be safe. We used to care for our old and sick, because they were ours, and it's what we did. You run the man next door some bread and soup when he's feeling low, and when your tv antenna busts, he comes by with a ladder and a welding torch.

The big problem is Media.

The media has learned to brainwash the people to not trust one another.

Make the people antisocial

We used to support eachother, we didn't need all the oversight, the laws and the regulations and the structure. We helped eachother because it was the right damn thing to do. We let people in...but slowly, carefully, in small drips and drops. If they don't mesh...then they don't mesh. Now we have to have all this structure to force everyone to get along, because otherwise we'll try and be kind and neighborly, and our new diverse fellows will bleed us dry.

Like i said...Harvest Moon with wifi, that's all I really want.

On thing I have to ask.

In the midwest itself do you see a lot of people who like the 80s style

Alright all, Im logging off for the night. thanks to everyone for the work theyve put in and welcome to all the new members.
just a reminder to all unvetted people and those who have been quite for some time, Ill be setting up Skype chats soon with all of you for final vetting. refusal to do so will result in a ban.

There are places in the midwest where they are unaware the 80s ever stopped...

Get some rest indy, gonna be hot again tomarrow, strength and faith to ya.

good night indy

Got a question for you lads (i assume lads anyway) which would you rather: Work for your pay, go out to the supermarket, and buy up some steak for dinner. Or have a buddy who's raising bees, so you lend a hand and garage to cook up mead for half the run, then take a portion of your half to get a portion of venison from a hunter buddy?

Honest, now, honest

If I could just walk up to a farmer or hunter for food I would

Trade or pay. USDA does more harm then good

Sounds a lot more fulfilling, but it would be hard changing our current ways.

God, an't that the truth. I'm all for safety, sure, but if i want to drive a half our out to a hog farm and buy half a carcass, i should be able to. If i want i should be able to just work something out with the family up the road where he gives me some eggs each week and i give him tomatoes. Mad thing? you can't do what i just described in a majority of the states without breaking the law.

Not saying we should roll back to the damn barter system, hell no, but there's no good solid reason to regulate or restrict stuff like that other then sheer busybody-ness

take care of more of your needs yourself, or through community, frees up more of that cold hard cash for other things. Probably why you're not allowed to do it, now that i think of it...

Well we can't have you being self-sufficient. How else can you buy stuff to support a third world country's economy.

Remember we need to welfare the world.

And they're oh so appreciative too. It's when i see people saying "trump's making you a laughingstock of the world!". Goddammit, we've been that since...fucking forever, we're supposed to care now suddenly? "you voted against your own interests!". what are those? the things that led us to becoming a dystopia? That led us down the path fifty years ago that Europe is just now finding themselves on?

What would Israel do if we stop giving them our money!? Such a peaceful and sovereign nation only with wishes to exist. The Jews need their genocidal, zionist, empire.

Then talk about creating your own community of like-minded people of similar blood and bearing, and suddenly you're the embodiment of evil itself. For me, not for thee and all that. What i don't get is why are we the weirdos? Shouldn't everyone want a strong family, independent living, and freedom to live? Are people just that fucking far gone?

Bah. I'm going to bed, before i start shouting in the damn street. Grab the foxfire books, read them, pass them around. Remember, there used to be more, may be again. Good luck to you.

OK guys

Be honest

How did I do?

looks great but resolution could be better on my end might just be me

I cut the eagle out the top corner flag. You think it would be better if I left it in?

Better?

Looks good

I also found another flag

We may do a flag thread. It'll take a lot of work to replace the one we have but if people have that back g of a problem with it. I've said from the beginning that I'm fine with replacing it, it was only my first draft but it kinda just took off, but we're so heavenly associated with it now.

@everyone

How's this one?