Message from @Thomas Ryan

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2018-02-12 19:16:30 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/412469194139893770/412688435594133505/TheBoys.png

2018-02-12 19:16:50 UTC  

absolutely aesthetic

2018-02-12 19:17:10 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/412469194139893770/412688600036016138/ChicagoFashwave.jpg

2018-02-12 19:17:14 UTC  

@Thomas Ryan PLEASE make these official propaganda.

2018-02-12 19:17:45 UTC  

@everyone y’all better follow me

2018-02-12 19:17:51 UTC  

We don't do fashwave on the official accounts because it has colors other than red/white/blue. HOWEVER, you're free to post them on personal accounts and all that.

2018-02-12 19:18:09 UTC  

Very cool.

2018-02-12 19:18:20 UTC  

Yea those are badass

2018-02-12 19:18:55 UTC  

Okay, question. Even though you don't use the swastika, do you beleive in what it represents?

2018-02-12 19:19:26 UTC  

I believe it is a symbol that represents a people that I do not belong to.

2018-02-12 19:20:19 UTC  

I'm going to say yes since most people associate it with George Lincoln Rockwell's "this is the symbol of my race" doctrine.

2018-02-12 19:20:39 UTC  

But I don't think we should use it as an explicitly american organization

2018-02-12 19:20:58 UTC  

I believe Thomas views it as german symbol specifically

2018-02-12 19:21:30 UTC  

The swastikas is a foreign symbol, I wouldn't use the sonnenrand or Slavic sun wheel either

2018-02-12 19:22:23 UTC  

The fasces is literally the physical representation of "from many one"

2018-02-12 19:22:45 UTC  

they are both ancient symbols and I understand the affinity for it

2018-02-12 19:22:57 UTC  

I think it's more of a broadly Germanic thing, if any. We also don't use relatively un-demonized runes like the black sun because they aren't American in nature.

2018-02-12 19:23:26 UTC  

I don't know what your ethnic origin is but greater than our ethnicities the swastika represents the white race and even greater than that it is a symbol of the idea of ethno-nationalism as a whole

2018-02-12 19:23:29 UTC  

That said, I happen to remember a few members with a swastika flag

2018-02-12 19:24:00 UTC  

@Ablesmith How does the symbol itself, as part of its origin, represent ethnonationalism?

2018-02-12 19:24:29 UTC  

You can have a swastika or you can actually have members, easy call for me.

2018-02-12 19:25:21 UTC  

You’ve already got to be redpilled to appreciate the imagery, and without that you’re just going to be turned off. Practicality over sentimental symbols

2018-02-12 19:26:02 UTC  

It's an Indo Aryan symbol used by Hitler and the NSDAP. I truly believe National Socialism is the most successful form of fascism while it existed but it has nothing to do with what we are trying to accomplish

2018-02-12 19:26:28 UTC  
2018-02-12 19:26:42 UTC  

I believe he's making the point that it is a representation of the white race. I am simply saying that we are an explicit american organization and so draw the symbolism closer. The swastika is too wide. Let's not forget also that it has been programmed into many that it is an inherintly evil symbol. And while we do not agree with those people, it helps break the conditioning when you don't look like the stereotypical villain and still proclaim your values

2018-02-12 19:28:14 UTC  

It was a symbol that was used by the most widely known ethno nationalists in history. It is used currently by nationalists all around the globe. America, Japan and South America to name a few. Of course I want to live in an ethno state full of white brothers and sisters from all European ethnicities but I will stand for any people that seek self determination and freedom from the Jews

2018-02-12 19:28:57 UTC  

That's great. We're not using Swastikas so it's moot

2018-02-12 19:29:15 UTC  

A race is a larger classification of a people than a nation. There are many nations which compose a race. The White race is composed of many nations, one of those nations is America. We are centered on national identity, not racial identity as the first concept we bring to the table. Universal symbols, as you see the swastika, are thus not really at the core of our message.

2018-02-12 19:29:53 UTC  

Whatever. I'm not saying you should use the swastika.

2018-02-12 19:30:30 UTC  

Its hard to read tone in text, so I hope we're all coming across as we intend

2018-02-12 19:30:40 UTC  

I'm trying to deep dive into the ideology behind this organization because other than the manifesto there really isn't much substance

2018-02-12 19:30:55 UTC  

?

2018-02-12 19:31:00 UTC  

Isn't much substance?

2018-02-12 19:31:01 UTC  

Give me a question, and I will give you an answer.

2018-02-12 19:31:23 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/412469194139893770/412692181728624641/image.jpg

2018-02-12 19:31:24 UTC  

Your statement you made last sufficed for the answer I was looking for

2018-02-12 19:31:29 UTC  

Wym?

2018-02-12 19:31:49 UTC  

Gotcha, well don't hesitate to bring anything up if you're curious.

2018-02-12 19:31:50 UTC  

"The American identity has no substance but the swastika does"

2018-02-12 19:31:57 UTC  

Odds are I've been asked something similar before.