Message from JCAdams in Charlottesville 2.0 #antifa_watch


2017-07-22 02:19:03 UTC  

it is truly changing the face of this movement

2017-07-22 02:19:11 UTC  

and reaching out to more people than anything

2017-07-22 02:19:50 UTC  

very good speaker too

2017-07-22 02:20:50 UTC  

I'm a Yankee from MI and there are almost as many confederate flags flying in front of houses in my home town as there are american flags

2017-07-22 02:20:58 UTC  

@Azzmador no TKR this week?

2017-07-22 02:21:03 UTC  

@TiborSzalasi-MI that is good to hear

2017-07-22 02:21:38 UTC  

I will be coming with a fairly large contingent of Texas Daily Strormer Book Clubs, Vanguard Texas, and others. We'll be carrying Confederate fl;ags, and since we're from Texas we'll also be sporting some of the more aggressive historical Texas flags, like the Bloody Arm Banner, to represent. We are also Daily Stormer, so we'll be representing that as well with some of our banners and signs etc. I think there is room here for every kind of flag, but the Confederate flags will and should be the overriding thing. That said, I'm not running anything here, this is just my opinion and our plans.

2017-07-22 02:22:11 UTC  

@WhiteTrash No, I had one guest who's sister died and then the second guest had technical issues so no show this week.

2017-07-22 02:22:34 UTC  

@Azzmador good deal. also sorry to hear about that.

2017-07-22 02:22:50 UTC  

damn that sucks azzmador

2017-07-22 02:23:10 UTC  

about the sister...i can go without the show

2017-07-22 02:24:51 UTC  

Yeah, I would have done one by myself but those take more prep time and the show was late by the time Irealized my secoind guest was not set up to do a podcast.

2017-07-22 02:25:23 UTC  

I've made sure that I have a guest forthis week.

2017-07-22 02:32:18 UTC  

But the thing about these flags is -the Confederate flag is an absolute necessity, and here's why:

2017-07-22 02:34:13 UTC  

You can't really just have an event where you say "we're White & we're here!" That's been done over and over and the results are always underwhelming. There has to be an event you are protesting, or a protest you are counterprotesting, or the general public just thinks "wtf?" Campus speeches seem to be the only exception to this.

2017-07-22 02:34:48 UTC  

This event was triggered originally by the attempt to remove Lee's statue, and people understand that.

2017-07-22 02:35:31 UTC  

It's a concept they can wrap their minds around, the destruction of their history and the denigration of their ancestors.

2017-07-22 02:36:06 UTC  

And the Confederate flag is emblematic of this particular struggle.

2017-07-22 02:36:47 UTC  

You have to think about these things on an archetypal level. That's where meme magic comes from.

2017-07-22 02:50:55 UTC  

plus that fact that's its an internationally recognized symbol will help resonate with other WN movements worldwide, when they see us Southerners take our stand along side sympathetic domestic groups

2017-07-22 02:52:33 UTC  

My fear is that by using the confederate flag you make the issue that we are rallying against only a southern issue. If that clarifies my opinion

2017-07-22 02:53:02 UTC  

the confederate flag and cause has mass appeal even among northerners

2017-07-22 02:53:21 UTC  

because everyone knows northern heroes are next

2017-07-22 02:54:04 UTC  

rural northerners have more in common with rural southerners than they do with northern urbanites

2017-07-22 02:54:18 UTC  

and they know it

2017-07-22 02:56:55 UTC  

@⚡Clark⚡
It is the Southern Symbols that are under attack right now. They'll be moving onto the yankee ones in due time.

2017-07-22 02:57:36 UTC  

@crockett How does the confederate flag relay the message to the northerners that they are next?

2017-07-22 02:58:41 UTC  

I'm not sure I'm tracking.

2017-07-22 02:59:49 UTC  

Instead of using a southern identitarian flag, focus on using symbols that have the ability to resonate with a larger demographic.

2017-07-22 03:00:01 UTC  

The CBF is a big fuck you to the establishment if that's what you mean.

2017-07-22 03:00:47 UTC  

I understand where you're coming from, but it all started in Charlottesville with the Confederate Memorials.

2017-07-22 03:01:09 UTC  

That is just what I argue, but I understand the sentiment not being well accepted among the die hard southerners here. Nonetheless, it's a southern rally and I respect it either way.

2017-07-22 03:03:10 UTC  

Personally I'll be carrying the SN Flag.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/334778940717793280/338153974601351169/FB_IMG_1443563865964.jpg

2017-07-22 03:04:04 UTC  

I'm from Michigan and I think counter signaling Confederate flags is asinine.

2017-07-22 03:04:45 UTC  

Never mind the fact that we have an entire channel for this topic... lol

2017-07-22 03:05:00 UTC  

No doubt.

2017-07-22 03:10:43 UTC  

With almost 20 million Jews in the world what else would you ever need to countersignal?

2017-07-22 03:22:57 UTC  

Where I come from there's a confederate flag on almost every car, flying from almost every house, and on shirts. It's our heritage, don't countersignal just because it's not yours or you don't understand it.

2017-07-22 03:47:22 UTC  

@⚡Clark⚡ The only way your continuing down this path is productive is if it were somehow possible you might have some infleunce regarding this issue, and you won't, so just drop it bro.

2017-07-22 03:48:43 UTC  

That's good advice, you should take it. Your logic isn't really logic, and you're gonna piss people off.