Telling me I can share values from someone different from me is like telling me the sky's blue

this is based on a circular continuum with a lot of values

I'm going to repeat myself again

**Yes. I share plenty of similar, if not the same values with Jews and Pakistanis, but that doesn't mean that we're going to share the same goals based on those values.**

Sharing values =/= cooperation

The values generally back an identity or a cause

ideology most consistently

https://www.npr.org/2017/06/05/530519844/most-mass-shootings-are-smaller-domestic-tragedies

posting to save for later gun control debates

in case a lefty shows up

Yes ofc

>ideology most consistently

Again, why does this matter?

i'm saying that values generally back an ideology most consistently, rather than a personal identity or a cause

as seen in the model above

If I live in a local community that's homogenous/that I appreciate, I'm going to worry for a set of values that supports their wellbeing.

yup, because youd share a cultural ideology

Yeah sorry, but it's rooted in *identity*

Not cultural ideology

Cart comes before the horse

i see what you're saying, but what i'm saying is based on the scientific model above

Human beings are not clean slates, they're born with/into something

i fully understand what you're saying, but i think identity is part of cultural ideology

And I'm telling you that *the study doesn't rebut me*

rather than the other way around

take christian as an identity, for example

plenty of christians have diverse views, so a christian society wouldn't necessarily have consistent values

whereas a community within, say, rural georgia that *happens to be christian* would have more consistent values because of their unifying cultural ideology

which is, in this case, being a rural southern area with an identity attached to their ideology

"Cultural ideology" is an extremely dubious and loaded term here

We use the word *identity* for a very obvious reason

Ideas or ideologies may be changed, sometimes much like how we change pants

An identity is rooted in the race and culture of the individual, generally *organically* developed throughout life, and not necessarily equivalent to *doctrine*

That's that Frankfurt School shit

so you're specifically defining identity as racial identity

Racial and cultural identity. Your innate physical characteristic, geographical location, and socially acquired mannerisms

i would say values are even less consistent across race based on your definition then

most socialists in college are rich white women

where in the same breath most natsocs are poor-middle class white men

Yes, but most whites vote republican. Overwhelmingly, in most areas of the United States, being liberal is *not* synonymous with group preference/social status