Message from пидорновичок in Charlottesville 2.0 #demonstration_tactics


2017-06-15 01:51:43 UTC  

^^ why would you bring women to an event where there will be known hostilities...?

2017-06-15 02:09:32 UTC  

1. We don't actually expect violence. That's just larping. Antifa only instigates when they have a massive numerical advantage, which they will not, here.

2017-06-15 02:09:50 UTC  

2. The womenfolk have their own cordon, far behind the men. They will be fine.

2017-06-15 02:17:36 UTC  

I think that Vanguard and the DRW have a similar view on 3Ds at inflammatory events

2017-06-15 02:24:13 UTC  

Bringing women to a protest/rally where we expect violence is fucking retarded.

2017-06-15 02:24:28 UTC  

Keep them in the rear.

2017-06-15 02:25:24 UTC  

How can you not expect violence when this was a major loss to them before and they have more time to plan now. They've been proven to be violent at large events

2017-06-15 02:25:57 UTC  

Also, even if you aren't expecting violence, you should prepare for it. Underestimating Antifa's will to escalate is retarded as well.

2017-06-15 02:26:04 UTC  

I'm trying to figure out how expecting violence is larping?

2017-06-15 02:26:18 UTC  

Is everything larping these days?

2017-06-15 02:27:22 UTC  

@Heinz - MI That's what I was saying. They will be the rear, as I understand.

2017-06-15 02:27:46 UTC  

Maybe I am mistaken.

2017-06-15 02:27:58 UTC  

In which case, someone else is tactically mistaken.

2017-06-15 02:28:32 UTC  

You realize the violence can happen anywhere around the event?

2017-06-15 02:28:58 UTC  

Like a parking lot or something before and after the event

2017-06-15 02:29:24 UTC  

Obviously. Travel in groups, always.

2017-06-15 02:29:38 UTC  

After is probably the most dangerous time.

2017-06-15 02:29:47 UTC  

Okay so this is still an unnecessary risk

2017-06-15 02:30:33 UTC  

If we are bringing women, they should be kept within a perimeter.

2017-06-15 02:30:33 UTC  

Unnecessary? It's a cost-benefit analysis.

2017-06-15 02:30:48 UTC  

@Heinz - MI That is my current understanding.

2017-06-15 02:31:05 UTC  

It better be true, for their sake.

2017-06-15 02:31:08 UTC  

And ours.

2017-06-15 02:31:16 UTC  

We need a map of the location we will be at. If this is just a standard rally where we will be in one place, we can easily set a perimeter.

2017-06-15 02:31:24 UTC  

Beyond that, we need to figure out parking details.

2017-06-15 02:31:33 UTC  

It's a march. Need a bubble to shield them.

2017-06-15 02:31:35 UTC  

If need be, we can organize a shuttle system for people that park far away.

2017-06-15 02:31:50 UTC  

We will have to. I'm sure we will exceed standard parking.

2017-06-15 02:32:06 UTC  

Also, we will need detailed and planned routes from where we park, to wherever we are going that EVERYONE follows.

2017-06-15 02:32:25 UTC  

And showing up early

2017-06-15 02:32:35 UTC  

Last time at CVille 1.0 a lot of people left in small 4-5 person groups. It wasn't a big deal then, but there will be a much stronger antifa presence at this one.

2017-06-15 02:32:48 UTC  

We all need to leave at the same time, and going to the same place.

2017-06-15 02:32:52 UTC  

Agreed.

2017-06-15 02:33:05 UTC  

Our group was huge, and we adopted a group of two to take to their vehicle.

2017-06-15 02:33:19 UTC  

That's why I think a shuttle system would be good. Where we have several people responsible for large vans that park nearby the event that can shuttle others to parking lots farther away.

2017-06-15 02:33:35 UTC  

That is a great idea.

2017-06-15 02:33:40 UTC  

Agreed.

2017-06-15 02:33:43 UTC  

If we know the locations of where we will be marching, lets get them up now.

2017-06-15 02:34:06 UTC  

AFAIK this server is private, so unless we plan on bringing a bunch of randos in we can do it here.

2017-06-15 02:35:04 UTC  

Those several people can be the medics. Anyone injured can go to the van as well.

2017-06-15 02:35:09 UTC  

No. This server is absolutely not private.