Message by Tyrone, in Charlottesville 2.0, #demonstration_tactics

Heinz - MI 2017-06-16 19:29:55

We should lock down an area where we can all park at that is close by, and a spot to act as a rally point for shuttles. We can't have people walking by themselves to their cars or hotels, and Uber is going to be unreliable.

Heinz - MI 2017-06-16 19:35:40

Garages could be good, but we need to check the clearances on them, as rental vans are quite tall. Is that something you could do @PrimitveXaoc since you live in the area?

Heinz - MI 2017-06-16 19:36:47

Alternatively, if parking is going to be an issue like you say, we could have every group that is bringing passenger vans park at the lots and garages that are nearby and shuttle everyone that attends to lots further away.

TiborSzalasi-MI 2017-06-16 19:37:06

There are only 3 public garages/lots that show up on google

TiborSzalasi-MI 2017-06-16 19:37:12

we likely wont fit in the garages

TiborSzalasi-MI 2017-06-16 19:37:28

there's street parking off in the neighborhood

TiborSzalasi-MI 2017-06-16 19:37:34

but thats dicey as well

Heinz - MI 2017-06-16 19:38:04

The lot we were in last time was close, and it had cameras watching it. We could park there, but it won't fit everybody.

Heinz - MI 2017-06-16 19:42:33

Either way I think the thing to stress here is that we CANNOT do what we did last time and just leave in groups of 3 or 4. We need to travel as one large group.

PrimitveXaoc 2017-06-16 19:46:09

So, in August the Farmer's market downtown is in full swing. That takes up one of the larger secure lots behind the mall beside the larger of the parking garages. For secure close parking I would suggest using the Omni hotel parking garage (private) which is right beside where you all parked last time.(from what I saw from the videos posted) From where I saw you walking in the videos. That one is at least gated and has open areas that do not require clearance. It is also the lesser used of all of the lots.

PrimitveXaoc 2017-06-16 19:46:47

Well, I'd suggest looking in to that as an option.

Tyrone 2017-06-16 19:47:06

Why don't we park on campus?

Tyrone 2017-06-16 19:47:26

School isn't in session and public school campuses are public access

Tyrone 2017-06-16 19:47:41

Shuttle from there

Tyrone 2017-06-16 19:47:57

Plus it will piss people off?

Heinz - MI 2017-06-16 19:48:10

This is where we parked last time.

Heinz - MI 2017-06-16 19:48:18

At least that's where my group parked.

Heinz - MI 2017-06-16 19:48:32

Is this the lot you are saying will be closed?

PrimitveXaoc 2017-06-16 19:49:07

I suggested that earlier as well, there are a few schools in the are none is truly close walking proximity but shuttling, yes.

PrimitveXaoc 2017-06-16 19:49:42

The Omni lot literally connects to that one. Just happens to be more secure, they have security watching the lot cameras etc.

Tyrone 2017-06-16 19:50:23

For egress, we start marching away all together and the shuttles will gradually pick up people from the front

Heinz - MI 2017-06-16 19:53:41

Is Omni parking available for the public, or do you need to be a guest? If it is covered, what is the clearance on the ceiling?

PrimitveXaoc 2017-06-16 19:53:47

That is not the lot that will be closed. It is one that fills up faster during the summer time. It really depends on if the locals are going to try to avoid the area like the plague that day.

PrimitveXaoc 2017-06-16 19:56:50

Or how many people will be in town for this event. We don't see a lot of things like this here locally and I imagine it will draw some sizable crowds from all sides.

Tyrone 2017-06-16 20:00:02

Part of me wishes we would crowd fund busses and leave from 5 miles away and roll up right next to the park like the New England Patriots.

PrimitveXaoc 2017-06-16 20:00:23

^^^ there you go 😂

MadDimension 2017-06-16 20:00:26

PARKING: People are either going to need to pay a few shekels to park in the Parking Garage about ($10 for the day) or we can shuttle them in from a nearby location like Darden-Towe Park

Tyrone 2017-06-16 20:00:51

When 6-10 bus loads pull up and unload everyone it would send a message

PrimitveXaoc 2017-06-16 20:01:22

Omni has open and closed lots and also will allow for busses to be parked there as well, you are not required to be a guest.

Heinz - MI 2017-06-16 20:03:10

We can probably shuttle people in, but the shuttles will need to be parked closeby. Omni should work if that's the case.

TiborSzalasi-MI 2017-06-16 20:03:21

@everyone It's absolutely critical that you not mill about in small groups, you'll get overtaken

TiborSzalasi-MI 2017-06-16 20:03:43

every possible effort should be made to link up as soon as possible, shuttling is probably the best bet

PrimitveXaoc 2017-06-16 20:04:08

@MadDimension Darden towe may possibly be packed that day I can check on the park schedules. Soccer games and other sports there. I was thinking Omni for Private or Clark School for public parking.

PrimitveXaoc 2017-06-16 20:05:29

Also, Monticello high school has sizable lots and is about a 5 min drive (straight shot) from the downtown mall and outside city limits.

MadDimension 2017-06-16 20:05:51

What about the McDonald's and Staples parking lots?

MadDimension 2017-06-16 20:06:23

The Parking Garage at Carver Rec is open to the public as well

PrimitveXaoc 2017-06-16 20:06:30

They have both started to crack down on parking.

Erika 2017-06-16 20:06:45

Erika 2017-06-16 20:06:48

PrimitveXaoc 2017-06-16 20:06:52

I was just going to mention Carver. It ultimately all depends on if there are any other events.

Erika 2017-06-16 20:07:03