Message from TiborSzalasi-MI in Charlottesville 2.0 #demonstration_tactics

2017-06-15 05:47:38 UTC  

Parking is a nightmare where this is occurring, I'm sure some of you know that. We do have several companies locally who rent out smaller sized busses etc, commonly for vineyard tours. A lot of people also rent busses from UVA to shuttle for special events or even the Charlottesville Trolley, which would make for some interesting optics. Renting a fleet of passenger vans from somewhere close by is another option. I will be attending with my husband in separate vehicles. I planned to be able to leave and help handle getting woman moved out if it got too bad. Utilizing a public school's parking lot nearby may be the largest free parking option for the masses.

2017-06-15 22:53:22 UTC  

With the date being public, you can bet the left will be out scouting for our vehicles. Are there any secured lots nearby?

2017-06-15 23:21:09 UTC  

@TiborSzalasi-MI there are places about 1 mil away to park if you dont mind the walk

2017-06-16 00:34:54 UTC  

We'll have to coordinate this, it is a big safety issue.

2017-06-16 02:14:35 UTC  


2017-06-16 02:14:46 UTC  

Walking a mile in small groups is literally an invitation to be fucked up

2017-06-16 02:14:57 UTC  

Should really take the idea of a shuttle seriously

2017-06-16 03:20:51 UTC  

There are only 2 garages in the area.

2017-06-16 03:30:51 UTC  

UHaul cargo van would be cheap and could hold a good number of folks, it's not like we will be traveling far.

2017-06-16 03:32:57 UTC  

This shows the dimensions better.

2017-06-16 04:29:33 UTC  

There are two garages downtown. They're both fairly crammed on a regular basis. Even on a random day of the week it can take awhile to drive around and find somewhere to park on the street. Add this size event and I can only imagine the crowds. I'm thinking that you may want to look in to the possibility of an airbnb apartment in the immediate area, there are some apartments right by the park. Possibility an immediate safe house/escape place for anyone higher profile who is not interested in being involved in any foolishness. One with a birds eye view of the park for security purposes would be optimal. I'm thinking it wouldn't be a bad idea to close down the streets surrounding the park itself. @MadDimension have you looked in to that at all? the street on the library side at the least? Other than that having a dedicated crew of people to occupy the on street spots with vehicles surrounding the park would be ideal.

2017-06-16 07:37:34 UTC  

@PrimitveXaocWhat are your credentials for planning ingress/egress?l

2017-06-16 07:38:29 UTC  

We should designate someone to plan logistics in this regard. Parking, movement to and from the ao

2017-06-16 10:48:23 UTC  

In this situation, my credentials happen to be the fact that I've lived here my entire life. How well do you know he area? Also, I was mostly speaking to Jason. Excuse me for offering suggestions.

2017-06-16 19:28:22 UTC  

So are there any large parking lots close to the area that we can use that won't be full? Either a secured lot, or somewhere that has cameras? Like next to a bank?

2017-06-16 19:29:55 UTC  

We should lock down an area where we can all park at that is close by, and a spot to act as a rally point for shuttles. We can't have people walking by themselves to their cars or hotels, and Uber is going to be unreliable.

2017-06-16 19:35:40 UTC  

Garages could be good, but we need to check the clearances on them, as rental vans are quite tall. Is that something you could do @PrimitveXaoc since you live in the area?

2017-06-16 19:36:47 UTC  

Alternatively, if parking is going to be an issue like you say, we could have every group that is bringing passenger vans park at the lots and garages that are nearby and shuttle everyone that attends to lots further away.

2017-06-16 19:37:06 UTC  

There are only 3 public garages/lots that show up on google

2017-06-16 19:37:12 UTC  

we likely wont fit in the garages

2017-06-16 19:37:28 UTC  

there's street parking off in the neighborhood

2017-06-16 19:37:34 UTC  

but thats dicey as well

2017-06-16 19:38:04 UTC  

The lot we were in last time was close, and it had cameras watching it. We could park there, but it won't fit everybody.

2017-06-16 19:42:33 UTC  

Either way I think the thing to stress here is that we CANNOT do what we did last time and just leave in groups of 3 or 4. We need to travel as one large group.

2017-06-16 19:46:09 UTC  

So, in August the Farmer's market downtown is in full swing. That takes up one of the larger secure lots behind the mall beside the larger of the parking garages. For secure close parking I would suggest using the Omni hotel parking garage (private) which is right beside where you all parked last time.(from what I saw from the videos posted) From where I saw you walking in the videos. That one is at least gated and has open areas that do not require clearance. It is also the lesser used of all of the lots.

2017-06-16 19:46:47 UTC  

Well, I'd suggest looking in to that as an option.

2017-06-16 19:47:06 UTC  

Why don't we park on campus?

2017-06-16 19:47:26 UTC  

School isn't in session and public school campuses are public access

2017-06-16 19:47:41 UTC  

Shuttle from there

2017-06-16 19:47:57 UTC  

Plus it will piss people off?

2017-06-16 19:48:10 UTC  

This is where we parked last time.

2017-06-16 19:48:18 UTC  

At least that's where my group parked.

2017-06-16 19:48:32 UTC  

Is this the lot you are saying will be closed?

2017-06-16 19:49:07 UTC  

I suggested that earlier as well, there are a few schools in the are none is truly close walking proximity but shuttling, yes.

2017-06-16 19:49:42 UTC  

The Omni lot literally connects to that one. Just happens to be more secure, they have security watching the lot cameras etc.

2017-06-16 19:50:23 UTC  

For egress, we start marching away all together and the shuttles will gradually pick up people from the front

2017-06-16 19:53:41 UTC  

Is Omni parking available for the public, or do you need to be a guest? If it is covered, what is the clearance on the ceiling?

2017-06-16 19:53:47 UTC  

That is not the lot that will be closed. It is one that fills up faster during the summer time. It really depends on if the locals are going to try to avoid the area like the plague that day.

2017-06-16 19:56:50 UTC  

Or how many people will be in town for this event. We don't see a lot of things like this here locally and I imagine it will draw some sizable crowds from all sides.