Message from @(((El Gringo Narigón)))
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I thought you were going to argue it wasn't their definition
@sɪᴅɪsɴᴏᴛʜᴇʀᴇ Unless the policy is actually the government taking over an industry, it's more a move towards fascism as it's indirect regulation, not actual takeover.
@The Big Oof so wait...how are you defining socialism?
No el gringo
Any intervention is removing the market forces
Any intervention is a socialist policy
@(((El Gringo Narigón))) Socialism is collective ownership, be it directly by the workers or through it by the workers operating the state
taxation, subsidies, regulations, anti trust laws, tarrifs etc etc
it's the literal
meaning
"Social + ism"
of the work
it's the etymology...
You're trying to justify your defintion over the word looking like that?
By that logic fascism is about fashion
@The Big Oof Fair enough, but would you not agree that the state does end up being the controller whether in the hands of a collective or just the govt doing it in the name of people
Not really no
@sɪᴅɪsɴᴏᴛʜᴇʀᴇ my friend, as a linguist, that is reatarded.
@(((El Gringo Narigón))) Socialism has never been achieved, but that says more about it being a shitty economic system
@The Big Oof BTW I just realized I'm a retard -- there's such a thing as libertarian socialism
Yes there has
I can list so many countries
lol
Thank you
name a few.
he will name Peronist argentina
-Niger
-Djibouti
-Sudan
-Algeria
-Chad
-Bolivia
-Central African Republic
-Zimbabwe
-Angola
-Equatorial Guinea
-Ecuador
-Eritrea
-Suriname
-Republic of Congo
-Timor-Leste
-Cuba
-Togo
-Turkmenistan
-North Korea
-Mozambique
-USSR
-India
-China
-Somalia
-Haiti
-Swaziland
-Pakistan
-Bangladesh
he thinks corporatism is socialism
Oh an Peronism sure
All these countries were former or are
@The Big Oof and yes, though I still maintain that it's because it's a shitty economic system beacuse of its direct contradiction of human nature.
^
Mainly economic nature but
okay
Peronismo was a separate thing. It was, more than anything, a fusion of fascism and socialism into one. No one really knows wth it was
Libertarian socialism does not exist
yes it does
Peperonism*
It doesn't exist, but the concept does
Peronism was fascism but fascism has socialism as it's economics alot of the time