Message from @Stanislav Đajić

Discord ID: 336916157179232256


2017-07-18 04:21:31 UTC  

@Kurt even if you're getting gassed, you don't put on a mask. You deal with it and move away from the area where the cops are trying to disperse people. If you choose to wear a mask, then you'll be getting gassed and also be getting arrested and being charged with a felony for violating the no mask laws. No masks at this event literally means no masks.

2017-07-18 04:21:51 UTC  

^^^^

2017-07-18 05:01:26 UTC  

What kind of goggles are ideal?

2017-07-18 05:04:15 UTC  

@GreatTarnNord probably no goggles.

2017-07-18 05:07:59 UTC  

If police are popping tear gas or pepper bombs, that means they're trying to disperse a crowd, which means they've probably given everyone in the area fair warning to get the fuck out. In that case, you shouldn't be near the gas because you decided to evacuate the area. Goggles might also be considered a mask, so I wouldn't take the risk.

2017-07-18 05:33:06 UTC  

I am more worried about our opposition, and their m80s in bottles and rocks.

2017-07-18 05:35:15 UTC  

@GreatTarnNord You can get ballistic sunglasses, but a pair of ANSI safety glasses should stop glass and shit

2017-07-18 05:35:51 UTC  

What do ballistic sunglasses go for?

2017-07-18 06:30:51 UTC  

Good*
I found a better price from another vendor on Amazon.

2017-07-18 07:13:51 UTC  

Those would work fine yeah

2017-07-18 07:13:58 UTC  

Wiley X is a good brand

2017-07-18 09:17:11 UTC  

Th

2017-07-18 16:04:47 UTC  

If CS makes you freak out you should harden up. It's an irritant. I did 5 minutes in a chamber with no mask.

If you can't hold your breath and leave you have other physical issues.

2017-07-18 16:10:35 UTC  

Can confirm

2017-07-18 16:10:40 UTC  

CS gas is easy

2017-07-18 16:10:58 UTC  

Will also acknowledge that OC fucking sucks and is not nearly as sufferable

2017-07-18 16:12:34 UTC  

Over all though at least a pair of sunglasses would do a lot for minimizing it IN you eyes and you can quickly decontaminate the surrounding areas before it runs into your eyes

2017-07-18 16:53:18 UTC  

Yeah if you look at the news story about the KKK the opposition female said that 3 people were arrested and charged for covering up their face while being gassed.

2017-07-18 16:59:17 UTC  

FWIW I felt like the gas mask demo in KY was pretty LARP-y, especially since only 3-4 people at most actually had them.

I agree with simply getting out of the way if we get gassed THIS TIME, but in the long term, we can't keep taking a completely deferential posture to the police and also gain ground politically.

2017-07-18 17:04:31 UTC  

CIVIL DISOBEDIENCE is stupid when you're just an anonymous arrest statistic for a cause no one cares about, but when there are enough people watching, it can inspire your supporters and make the state appear to be losing its power.

2017-07-18 17:06:20 UTC  

Think of 1000+ actual white nationalists marching in DC, getting confronted by a bigger crowd of antifa and nonwhites, getting gassed cuz anarcho-tyranny, putting on masks and wading into the enemy.

2017-07-18 18:44:36 UTC  

Backpacks and helmets just in case, being inside of the backpacks accepted or no?

2017-07-18 18:57:57 UTC  

You can get a bump cap insert for a ball cap for like $5. I think if we were to show up with helmets it'd be like we're inviting antifa to attack us and would ruin the "peacefully assembling" look. Cops are going to be separating us anyway right?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/321380582112231425/336944704220561408/IMG_20170616_175611966.jpg

2017-07-18 19:01:06 UTC  
2017-07-18 19:41:49 UTC  

Thats goofy

2017-07-18 19:57:06 UTC  

It works like a hard hat, just concealable underneath your cap.

2017-07-18 20:33:19 UTC  

Does not meet ANSI/ISEA Z89.1 requirements

2017-07-18 20:33:27 UTC  

For what pvrpose

2017-07-18 20:34:03 UTC  

Its a flexible piece of plastic that doesnt negate impacts

2017-07-18 20:34:35 UTC  

Its to stop you from bumping your head in crawlspaces and shit, not to stop a brick

2017-07-18 20:59:35 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/321380582112231425/336975312107601921/image.jpg

2017-07-18 20:59:50 UTC  

@Hand Banana What do you think about this as an option?

2017-07-18 21:13:59 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/321380582112231425/336978938704429056/NewNSM.jpg

2017-07-18 21:15:10 UTC  

I have this shirt and another with just the symbol. Too in your face? I don't think so....innocuous to me but I don't don't want to get stoned.

2017-07-18 23:02:48 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/321380582112231425/337006323470303242/image.jpg

2017-07-18 23:02:53 UTC  

That's way less in-your-face than their original logo. ^^^^^

2017-07-18 23:04:24 UTC  

It will definitely get attention.

2017-07-18 23:14:20 UTC  

We want to attract good normies to our movement, right? When the media shows up and gets spergy looks and behavior on camera, then it sets us back on that goal considerably. Just use your best judgement.

2017-07-18 23:25:07 UTC  

Literally the ADL wrote an article about vanguard being militant neo Nazis and attending pikeville with NSM/NF

2017-07-18 23:25:33 UTC  

Soooo... we're already associated with NSM 🤷🏻‍♂️