Message from @Springband
Discord ID: 289620273244667905
It's clear you don't understand what it means...
*grabs popcorn*
That's a simpler way to define it, but liberal and conservative is just a set of values
Liberalism being equality, social justice, anti-social standards, pro-LGBT, ect.
And Conservatism is economic freedom, tradition, pro-gun rights, family values, ect.
the basis of liberalism is liberty. Free speech, freedom of association, etc. Anyone against any of those liberties is not actually a liberal. They're a LINO if you will.
That's not what modern American liberalism is
that's pretty black and white tbh
When people use the term liberal, they are likely referring to the modern version
no side has mutually exclusive values and beliefs.There are pro life, pro gun, pro death penalty liberals and pro choice, less traditional conservatives
Liberals barely support any traditionalism
Shit, readd that wrong
But there aren't that many pro-life liberals
Seems a lot like you're policing you're own interpretation of language, and generalizing people in order to keep your world view in tact.. I associate that behavior with SJWs
Liberals: Dave Rubin, Gad Saad. Not liberals: anyone against any civil liberties
Just a thought
Can't tell if you're talking to him or me
@SlotterOtter So basically, anyone who disagrees with me is against civil liberties. Alright
ha
nice twisting mah words
That's pretty...*black and white* of him
anyone againt civil liberties isn't a liberal. This is indisputable. You can't have liberalism without liberty.
i say this because
That doesn't mean everyone that doesn't consider themselves liberal is anti civil rights
there are people who call themselves liberal, while being against such things as freedom of the press, speech, association, etc
it is not possible to be a liberal if you are against any form of liberty.
Right, so technically the KKK are liberals, just for the white race only
🙄
But a lot of people espousing liberal values are being pretty shitty and prejudiced these days as well, like the KKK. it's worth being cognizant of that.
they espouse them. doesn't mean they follow them.
Exactly
That's what I'm getting at
and Right, that was fucking retarded. You can do better than that.
Sorry if I'm sounding a little too abstract
nah, you're cool
😡 hot dog water
you been listening to Limp Bizkit?
Linkin Park is basically a pop band now
wat