Liberalism just means you think everyone is equal

Which is bullshit

uhhhhhhh

It's clear you don't understand what it means...

*grabs popcorn*

That's a simpler way to define it, but liberal and conservative is just a set of values

Liberalism being equality, social justice, anti-social standards, pro-LGBT, ect.

And Conservatism is economic freedom, tradition, pro-gun rights, family values, ect.

the basis of liberalism is liberty. Free speech, freedom of association, etc. Anyone against any of those liberties is not actually a liberal. They're a LINO if you will.

That's not what modern American liberalism is

that's pretty black and white tbh

When people use the term liberal, they are likely referring to the modern version

no side has mutually exclusive values and beliefs.There are pro life, pro gun, pro death penalty liberals and pro choice, less traditional conservatives

Liberals barely support any traditionalism

Shit, readd that wrong

But there aren't that many pro-life liberals

Seems a lot like you're policing you're own interpretation of language, and generalizing people in order to keep your world view in tact.. I associate that behavior with SJWs

Liberals: Dave Rubin, Gad Saad. Not liberals: anyone against any civil liberties

Just a thought

Can't tell if you're talking to him or me

@SlotterOtter So basically, anyone who disagrees with me is against civil liberties. Alright

ha

nice twisting mah words

*Not liberals = anyone against civil liberties*

That's pretty...*black and white* of him

anyone againt civil liberties isn't a liberal. This is indisputable. You can't have liberalism without liberty.

i say this because

That doesn't mean everyone that doesn't consider themselves liberal is anti civil rights

there are people who call themselves liberal, while being against such things as freedom of the press, speech, association, etc

it is not possible to be a liberal if you are against any form of liberty.

Right, so technically the KKK are liberals, just for the white race only

🙄

But a lot of people espousing liberal values are being pretty shitty and prejudiced these days as well, like the KKK. it's worth being cognizant of that.

they espouse them. doesn't mean they follow them.

Exactly

That's what I'm getting at

and Right, that was fucking retarded. You can do better than that.

Sorry if I'm sounding a little too abstract

nah, you're cool

😡 hot dog water

you been listening to Limp Bizkit?