Message from Melektaus in Charlottesville 2.0 #virginia_laws
Are you a lawyer?
no its called reading comprehension
"It shall be unlawful for any person over 16 years of age to, with the intent to conceal his identity," this part also nullifies wearing a respirator and sunglasses being a crime since your intent is for personal protection from chemical agents and not to conceal your identity
Is this also the section where we give bad lifting advice?
Intent seems to be a key word there
And what is the definition of "other activities"?
I do know a Virginia lawyer... I'll inquire
@Melektaus that is horrible advice. If you wear any kind of face covering material (except sunglasses) you will be arrested and charged with a felony
Most riot police will not stop to hear your "comprehension" of the law as they arrest you
@SaintCharles Its best to let people do as they wish, if they don't follow laws , thats on them. I've tried helping but people insist to resist the advice
I'm clear on the VA provisions for open carry from the above. Thank you!
That said, do we anticipate any part of the public event(s) taking place in one of the numerous localities/settings to which specific prohibitions apply? Do we have men who plan to open carry?
I'm seriously contemplating a full-size pistol in a drop-leg platform.
@PureDureSure no place we will be will prohibit carry. However open carry is highly frowned upon
Thank you, @Kurt . I may have to forego carrying a gun, then. I don't have an active CWP of any description/jurisdiction.
so get one.
I'm going to try, but doubt they'll turn the application around in less than two weeks' time (they claim a 90-day potential maximum).
depends on the state
Depends on the county
Not that they would ever have reason to so much as know where we're lodging, but on the 0.1% chance they were to take some interest in it, would VA law look with disdain on the presence of some hardware in the house in which we're bedding down?
VA is a fire arm friendly state... hell it is an open carry state
I got mine back in a week so I would try and see what happens
I dunno it doesn't take a $200/hr lawyer to read and understand one sentence but that's just me. I doubt anyone will be tackled to the ground and cuffed because you pulled out and donned a respirator if antifa started spewing pepper spray.
It all depends on the state and the town, in RI it can take from 2 weeks for some of the town permits to over 6mo for CCW from the attorney general then states like NJ or NY can take years
Take it for what it's worth, but LEO's arrested a bunch of Antifa for masking up after tear gas was deployed.
At the Klan rally recently.
"We tried to gas you but you tried to protect yourself from it now you're under arrest"
Law and law enforcement doesn't always make sense, but it is what it is.
They're going to remember who wears any kind of mask and will arrest you the first chance they get.
I concede. I forget police aren't on our side. Yet.
Most of them are in Philly lol
Well the face paint joker was a special case, it was some guy dressed up as the joker in carrying around a sword which is legal to carry a sword but they wanted to arrest him and used that as an excuse.
so it means what they want it to mean
When they have political demonstations happening with two aggravated sides, they WILL arrest you for covering your face
@here so what is the conclusion on open carry? I want a sound and solid take on it.
What I mean is, who here has talked to the Cville police about our options for open carry because the 3%ers are always at these things with their guns out right?
Check pinned messages. I believe that all the information you need is there.
Nope, read through the pins again @crockett and I am seeing nothing like what I asked. It seems that if they really want to they can nail you hard if you are carrying and say you get in a fight, my question is 'what is the current state/mood of the police in this?' because a LOT rides on that.
I guess another way of putting it is this:
Antifa are going to be the ones starting shit, we already know this, do the cops know this?
If I have to smash an antifa in the face for coming at me with a pole, are the cops going to be assholes about the gun I have on my belt?
I haven't spoken to anyone in the PD. I can't answer who they think will start the violence.
Okay I think we need to find out