Message from Hand Banana in Charlottesville 2.0 #virginia_laws


2017-07-27 18:00:49 UTC  

Pepper spray is probably more likely to be deployed at this event than cs gas though, i'm willing to guess

2017-07-27 18:15:26 UTC  

Is there any law restricting the type of flag poles we bring? Im willing to look up statutes but no idea what sort of statute would restrict this

2017-07-27 18:42:19 UTC  

@WhiteTrash I haven't seen it mentioned. Are you wanting to bring something weird?

2017-07-27 18:43:25 UTC  

no

2017-07-27 18:43:53 UTC  

was just gonna get a dowel rod or something

2017-07-27 18:44:15 UTC  

or buy a flagpole off amazon..whatever

2017-07-27 18:55:13 UTC  

That part in the law about protective devices is for people who are actively employed in a business that requires them to use protective gear

2017-07-27 18:55:34 UTC  

Not just anyone wearing protective gear

2017-07-27 21:17:28 UTC  

Nathan is checking with the police on flagpoles because there was some concerns over them being construed as weapons. He is supposed to make an announcement about it as soon as he finds out something

2017-07-27 21:17:57 UTC  

Kkk had flag poles no?

2017-07-27 21:34:10 UTC  

I believe so. On live hours last night he said that the police were going to try and control the group's getting into the park and the flag post may not be allowed but they are going to follow up

2017-07-27 21:34:38 UTC  

Poles

2017-07-27 21:49:53 UTC  

i'm gonna be there early before they control so whatever

2017-07-27 21:50:16 UTC  

only real question is AK47 or AR15

2017-07-27 21:50:48 UTC  

i kid i don'te ven have any funs

2017-07-27 21:50:55 UTC  

but i do have lots of flags

2017-07-28 01:19:57 UTC  

@greg-ky VA is not CA or DC. The police cannot under pretty much any circumstances prevent you from carrying anything that is not explictly illegal by state law. You can open carry a sword if you want, as long as you do not brandish it. Nathan doesn't understand how the law works here, which is why he said that.

2017-07-28 02:04:46 UTC  

@Kurt 👍

2017-07-29 03:00:49 UTC  

Thats very bad advice

2017-07-29 03:00:55 UTC  

Stop giving bad legal advice unless you're a lawyer

2017-07-29 03:01:27 UTC  

You literally cut out the part for how it's about wearing respirators and masks in the process of working a job

2017-07-29 03:04:22 UTC  

"engaged in professions, trades, employment or other activities and wearing protective masks which are deemed necessary for the physical safety of the wearer"

2017-07-29 03:05:14 UTC  

"or other activities and wearing protective masks which are deemed necessary for the physical safety of the wearer" means the law covers it. if antifa or cops are slinging pepper spray is that not deemed necessary for your physical safety?

2017-07-29 03:05:18 UTC  

Are you a lawyer?

2017-07-29 03:05:37 UTC  

no its called reading comprehension

2017-07-29 03:16:09 UTC  

"It shall be unlawful for any person over 16 years of age to, with the intent to conceal his identity," this part also nullifies wearing a respirator and sunglasses being a crime since your intent is for personal protection from chemical agents and not to conceal your identity

2017-07-29 03:20:23 UTC  

Is this also the section where we give bad lifting advice?

2017-07-29 04:09:11 UTC  

Intent seems to be a key word there

And what is the definition of "other activities"?

2017-07-29 04:13:01 UTC  

I do know a Virginia lawyer... I'll inquire

2017-07-29 12:09:29 UTC  

@Melektaus that is horrible advice. If you wear any kind of face covering material (except sunglasses) you will be arrested and charged with a felony

2017-07-29 12:10:15 UTC  

Most riot police will not stop to hear your "comprehension" of the law as they arrest you

2017-07-29 14:39:57 UTC  

@SaintCharles Its best to let people do as they wish, if they don't follow laws , thats on them. I've tried helping but people insist to resist the advice

2017-07-29 15:11:56 UTC  

I'm clear on the VA provisions for open carry from the above. Thank you!

That said, do we anticipate any part of the public event(s) taking place in one of the numerous localities/settings to which specific prohibitions apply? Do we have men who plan to open carry?

I'm seriously contemplating a full-size pistol in a drop-leg platform.

2017-07-29 15:23:48 UTC  

@PureDureSure no place we will be will prohibit carry. However open carry is highly frowned upon

2017-07-29 15:24:10 UTC  

conceal it.

2017-07-29 15:27:28 UTC  

Thank you, @Kurt . I may have to forego carrying a gun, then. I don't have an active CWP of any description/jurisdiction.

2017-07-29 15:29:25 UTC  

so get one.

2017-07-29 15:34:13 UTC  

I'm going to try, but doubt they'll turn the application around in less than two weeks' time (they claim a 90-day potential maximum).

2017-07-29 15:34:44 UTC  

depends on the state

2017-07-29 15:37:26 UTC  

Depends on the county

2017-07-29 15:55:47 UTC  

Not that they would ever have reason to so much as know where we're lodging, but on the 0.1% chance they were to take some interest in it, would VA law look with disdain on the presence of some hardware in the house in which we're bedding down?