Messsage from Fevs in Charlottesville 2.0 #general_1


AltCelt(IL) 2017-06-28 20:56:47  

I guess by public, I mean fellow Whites that could be open to our message. Its obviously not a Populist movement. We only want a specific kind, even anong whites, in our ranks.

Skull 2017-06-28 20:58:18  

Another example is how would you court a woman? Courting public opinion is the same way. You do so by being bold, courageous, and a fighter. If you're unwilling to do those things no amount of swastikas or PRcucking is gonna get you accepted

Hand Banana 2017-06-28 22:33:25  

Every great and successful movement of our type has had the same view on "optics". Present an honest and true message, openly name your enemies, and you will recruit the people who believe in your message and will fight for it. If you try and trick people into supporting you you show you are weak and a liar, and when they find out they will recoil from you, and rightfully so.

Hand Banana 2017-06-28 22:44:19  

Why try to appeal to and recruit people who want nothing to do with you? The NSDAP started with 20 maligned extremists in a bar in Munich. By being open and honest and speaking truth to power you will recruit earnest and honest men who will fight and die for you.

My Name Is Hate 2017-06-28 22:47:23  

โ€œGenerals think war should be waged like the tourneys of the Middle Ages. I have no use for knights; I need revolutionaries.โ€ AH

Hand Banana 2017-06-28 22:54:16  

Joe Normie isn't going to strap on boots and fight communists with you no matter how much you lie about being a White Nationalist and Anti-Semite.

Hand Banana 2017-06-28 22:55:19  

What this illustrates, to me, is the prioritization of social capital and outward appearance over true self presentation of ideas and goals. This is a very feminine behavior.

Tyrone 2017-06-28 23:32:00  

If we inhibit or deny any tactic we are limiting ourselves.

V I T A L I T Y 2017-06-28 23:33:38  

As things get more tumultuous people will tend radical. One direction or another. Itโ€™s only a matter of time before we have people flocking to us and demanding radicalization. Weโ€™d better be ready to provide that to them.

Erika 2017-06-28 23:34:18  

Who says anyone is lying about being a white nationalist or anti-Semite? Going around LARPing about wanting a 4th Reich and not softening your image will make Joe Normie shut down and not even want to listen to your point of view. None of this is about lying to appeal to normies. It's about rebranding and being smart about your rhetoric to open up conversation with those on the fence. Obviously, there's a time and place for harsher rhetoric and tactics. And that time will come as whites continue to feel more out of place and discriminated against.

Tyrone 2017-06-28 23:35:16  

There's a place for and time for everyone from 'moderates' like IE to Aryan Brotherhood prison gang alumni.

Tyrone 2017-06-28 23:36:18  

We just need leadership with the ingenuity and stomach to embrace a variety of tactics.

Tyrone 2017-06-28 23:39:07  

For now whomever is organizing earns the right to call the shots. If anyone doesn't like it:
Create your own brand and publicize your own events

Erika 2017-06-28 23:40:51  

I wouldn't call really IE "moderate". Not after being involved in so much activism with the organization and 1 on 1 conversations with IE leadership. Although I am happy we come off that way. We put a lot of work into our brand and optics, and it pays off with how many high quality applicants we usher into the family every week.

Hardrada 2017-06-28 23:40:55  

We throw them off by with nice guy nationalism... then BAM! Slam the door on the oven.

Erika 2017-06-28 23:41:09  

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Fevs 2017-06-28 23:42:02  

Yeah I see IE as moderate since the only thing they are pushing for is whiteness, no preference in fashy economic systems. Barebones white nationalism

Tyrone 2017-06-28 23:43:09  

IE isn't setting the edge. That's not their role. By have always having someone more extreme it gives anyone less extreme wiggle room.

Hardrada 2017-06-28 23:43:21  

Well IE is 14 with an optional 88.

Tyrone 2017-06-28 23:44:37  

This is how the left has worked for a century and it's why they are freaking out now that we have groups even accidentally employing these tactics.

Fevs 2017-06-28 23:45:25  

And by having slightly more extremes it tests the waters a bit on what you can get away with in an ideology

Hardrada 2017-06-28 23:47:43  

Yup, IE can speak to the masses. This frees up the shitlords to rustle some jimmies, and they just need to agree and amplify.

Tyrone 2017-06-28 23:48:03  

In a world with Richard Spencer getting any attention at all Rep Steve King and Clay Higgins can say things that people yawn at.

Erika 2017-06-28 23:50:17  

We're just not a political organization. We work on a metapolitical level to influence political change. We keep politics out of the public eye.

MadDimension 2017-06-28 23:53:49  

I agree with the strategy of convincing those on the fence. That's where we are in today's political landscape.

Fevs 2017-06-28 23:59:05  

Redpill all the civic nationalists

Tyrone 2017-06-29 00:20:42  

Focusing on exclusively "red pilling all of group X" is poor strategy. People are systematically trained to reject extremes.

Tyrone 2017-06-29 00:26:23  

The tactic is to keep putting the message out there in all forms possible to all receptive audiences through a variety of medium.

Tyrone 2017-06-29 00:26:56  

The power of audacity is what draws people in.

MadDimension 2017-06-29 00:30:38  

We need more numbers and we ultimately need to win the hearts and minds of the voters. We're going to need to play the Democratic system until it bites the dust

Fevs 2017-06-29 00:31:02  

*which is hopefully soon reee*

My Name Is Hate 2017-06-29 00:32:20  

Extremists don't "try to be extreme" find your niche & push the agenda. 14 words is the bare minimum. Personally I won't waste my time on the civics, I think you'll have better luck converting left wing radicals. Revolutionaries are revolutionaries, they just need to wake up to the fact that they're fighting for the wrong team. Civics seek to maintain a system that is bent on white genocide. We will not vote our way out of this, but I'm happy to help my white brothers & sisters any time, any place. So I'll see all you moderates in Cville

MadDimension 2017-06-29 00:35:53  

Democracy has clearly failed but it has a military holding it's lifeless corpse up for the time being

My Name Is Hate 2017-06-29 00:37:32  

Fully agreed, they will be there just like they are at every event to show their power, by continuing to keep the 2 opposing factions at Bay they demonstrate to the Normie that they are the true power in the street. Lemmings follow power. This is why erosion of system power is fundamental to our cause.

Tyrone 2017-06-29 00:44:03  

Some civics still think they can vote out of it. The treatment of Trump has been a red pill of its own to others.

Tyrone 2017-06-29 00:45:30  

I know a couple guys who were Bernie followers who got red pilled when the Jew reverted to type. They are now solid 14 words and exploring 88

My Name Is Hate 2017-06-29 00:52:10  

We will all talk more in Cville, looking forward to it!

Skull 2017-06-29 01:17:47  

I think it's good we recognize that the full truth and natural order must be restored

Skull 2017-06-29 01:18:52  

There's no voting out of this.

Skull 2017-06-29 01:20:29  

The masses don't want your message, it's unsafe to hold it. The system crashes down on them and threatens their livelihood for it.

Skull 2017-06-29 01:21:03  

The lemmings will follow along with what the system says to believe, blue is red, peace is war, slavery is freedom. So long as their comfort is assured.