Message from Americana - MD in Charlottesville 2.0 #general_1

2017-07-25 01:28:35 UTC  

Here's an idea: have two perimeters

2017-07-25 01:28:50 UTC  

There's going to be a TON of people who have only been recruited to come through sources such as /pol/ and twitter, and aren't connected into actual communication channels in any way. If we're expecting 1000 people or more, but only half of us are in the Discord, that's a lot of people with no way to get a pass, or even any idea that they'll need one.

2017-07-25 01:28:50 UTC  

the exclusive-access perimeter for organization members and people in this server
and then the outer perimeter for folks who just show up

2017-07-25 01:28:55 UTC  

How many people could really infiltrate successfully? Or even would be willing to try tbh

2017-07-25 01:29:03 UTC  

We have two perimeters. Shield wall and inner security

2017-07-25 01:29:39 UTC  

I don't see the issue then, as long as speakers and VIPs are protected

2017-07-25 01:29:58 UTC  

btw, is there a way to get patriot groups to stop countersignalling us?

2017-07-25 01:30:04 UTC  


2017-07-25 01:30:05 UTC  


2017-07-25 01:30:07 UTC  

It's the police absolving themselves of responsibility.

2017-07-25 01:30:09 UTC  

Call them cucks.

2017-07-25 01:30:12 UTC  

Hahaha. No

2017-07-25 01:30:42 UTC  

@Diethard Everyone needs protection.

2017-07-25 01:30:46 UTC  

I think junker is probably right to a large degree.

2017-07-25 01:30:51 UTC  

@Diethard well we should also care about all attendees

2017-07-25 01:31:11 UTC  

The "VIPs" aren't even leadership technically, with a few exceptions, they're just personalities

2017-07-25 01:31:19 UTC  

"They handed out passes, they let the communists through"

2017-07-25 01:31:37 UTC  

@Diethard And the men providing it deserve the utmost respect

2017-07-25 01:31:54 UTC  

Sorry but a pod cast host or a youtuber doesn't qualify as a leader in the movement

2017-07-25 01:32:06 UTC  

The police know damn well what a clusterfuck they're going to have on their hands trying to keep this thing "secured" so by suggesting passes they can say either "the organizers dropped the ball and let passes get into the wrong hands" or if we don't take their suggestion "we suggested means to secure the event, but the organizers declined"

2017-07-25 01:32:10 UTC  

Not offense to them, I know most of these guys personally but I'll tell them the same thing

2017-07-25 01:32:15 UTC  

Another idea best discussed amongst coordinators and people actually involved in the security and organization of the event. I don’t get this daily ritual of fielding ideas to the general channel of the event discord server.

2017-07-25 01:32:19 UTC  

I mean if youre just handing out passes how does that even keep them out? That seems like an invitation IN

2017-07-25 01:32:40 UTC  

Because @V I T A L I T Y sometimes ideas reach deaf ears

2017-07-25 01:32:48 UTC  
2017-07-25 01:33:41 UTC  

@V I T A L I T Y many voices can make many solutions friend-o.

2017-07-25 01:33:57 UTC  


2017-07-25 01:34:03 UTC  

This is for our people after all?

2017-07-25 01:34:07 UTC  

Not for some e celebs

2017-07-25 01:34:20 UTC  

We're democratic authoritarians.

2017-07-25 01:34:30 UTC  

@Gavius Corvus Good point. This is why I like to bring certain ideas to you guys first

2017-07-25 01:34:36 UTC  

I thought we were fascists

2017-07-25 01:34:56 UTC  

@Athena Marie considerate fascists.

2017-07-25 01:35:04 UTC  

Maybe we shouldnt do passes bc it might put the onus for misbehavior on us

2017-07-25 01:35:06 UTC  

Fascists can be Democratic. It's an ideology.

2017-07-25 01:35:12 UTC  

Or something..

2017-07-25 01:35:12 UTC  

@Athena Marie thank you. Exactly

2017-07-25 01:35:16 UTC  


2017-07-25 01:37:05 UTC  

@MadDimension just do passes for 10-12. That will be perfect. It will give us some breathing room to get setup and establish our perimeter.

2017-07-25 01:37:25 UTC  

Aren't people talking about getting there at 8am?

2017-07-25 01:37:57 UTC  

Theres no need if the cops are going to keep the park clear.