Message from Vic_Mackey in Charlottesville 2.0 #general_1

2017-08-07 10:46:10 UTC  

Well apparently the actual leadership of the various groups haven't been informed because different groups are coordinating together to show up early and discuss event tactics, and the people I've heard back from in the League have no clue this official security planning thing existed.

2017-08-07 10:47:06 UTC  

And the only outreach anyone can reference is messages that may or may not have been posted among the hundreds on the event page, which no one pays attention to since it is a shit show.

2017-08-07 10:47:21 UTC  

So from where I am standing, it really looks like the official organizers dropped the ball.

2017-08-07 10:48:39 UTC  

What groups specificly?

2017-08-07 10:48:48 UTC  

LS, TWP, and VA that I know of.

2017-08-07 10:49:23 UTC  

All three of those groups are folded into the larger plan. Their leadership have been at every single leadership meeting.

2017-08-07 10:49:49 UTC  

You are spreading fake news. Stop it now.

2017-08-07 10:50:05 UTC  

Really? I was unaware Dr Hill was in this Discord server, and my recruiter who has been helping us plan League activities has no clue this official planning thing exists.

2017-08-07 10:50:22 UTC  

I'm not spreading fake news at all.

2017-08-07 10:50:30 UTC  

I am saying the people I am hearing back from have no clue this is going on.

2017-08-07 10:50:44 UTC  

And Heimbach himself has made comments on Facebook about working with LS to get there early.

2017-08-07 10:52:16 UTC  

LS has a liason on this server, if your leadership is passing you bad info that is your problem. Heimbach is aware of the security plan.

2017-08-07 10:52:50 UTC  

Then it seems people are disregarding your security plan, because last I heard the plan was we were getting there early.

2017-08-07 10:52:55 UTC  

So I don't know what to tell you.

2017-08-07 10:54:48 UTC  

I will leave it at this, becuase this is not a productive conversation. If people show up ahead of the main security force they will either not be allowed into the inner cordon by the police, or will be physically removed before our permit starts at 10.

2017-08-07 10:54:58 UTC  

Look, I'll stop. I'm just letting you know that if my leadership says "Hey, we are getting there early" then I'm gonna be there early.

2017-08-07 10:55:36 UTC  

Physically removed by whom and in what capacity?

2017-08-07 10:56:02 UTC  

physically removed by the police, as in a trespass order

2017-08-07 10:56:48 UTC  

So you are going to have multiple speakers for the event and their respective groups removed for trespassing for not following your plan?

2017-08-07 10:56:55 UTC  

That sounds like a good way to start shit personally.

2017-08-07 10:56:59 UTC  

Physical removal? Buncha fascists!

2017-08-07 10:57:06 UTC  

No. That is the intent of police.

2017-08-07 10:57:18 UTC  

I see. Well we will see how it plays out I guess.

2017-08-07 10:57:20 UTC  

They do not want us to have confrontations with antifa

2017-08-07 10:58:02 UTC  

Antifa was going to try to occupy the park in order to try to shut down the event

2017-08-07 10:58:08 UTC  

Literal Fun Police

2017-08-07 10:59:03 UTC  

So instead of us having to confront them first thing in the morning, the police said that the park will be closed until our event starts. If anyone gets inside prior to 10 they will be removed.

2017-08-07 10:59:13 UTC  

If they don't let us into the actual event area I doubt that will be a problem, I am sure no one has a problem waiting and making a presence around the park. I highly doubt anyone will be removed for trespassing prior to the actual permit time.

2017-08-07 10:59:22 UTC  

Then we wait outside, sounds fine to me.

2017-08-07 10:59:28 UTC  


2017-08-07 10:59:47 UTC  

I'm there, Bowlther

2017-08-07 11:00:00 UTC  

Vladislav and Illegal will be too

2017-08-07 11:02:04 UTC  

Do what you want. This is not a productive conversation. There was a reason why the instructions were laid out the way they were. If people want to agitate by showing up early, fine. It has been made clear that the littlest provocation will get the whole thing shoahed which is why we told all the security personel to march in with the main force at 10.

2017-08-07 11:03:39 UTC  

Well that is where you are wrong. I'm not doing what I want, I'm following the directions of my leadership. If they say wait, I wait. If they say we are getting there early, we are getting there early. I'm not sure who your liason is, but from what I've seen the various groups aren't aware of any central coordination and working among themselves independently of this server. I.E. Heimbach saying he is showing up early with TWP and the League.

2017-08-07 11:04:45 UTC  

Hell last time I talked to my state Chairman about security for the event, he said the primary organizers were the Virginia League. So I kinda doubt he is aware you guys exist either.

2017-08-07 11:19:06 UTC  

There is an official Op Order and all organizations should follow it. Vanguard plans to disseminate it and follow it. The security liaisons from TWP and LS should have that order also and should be disseminating it to they're organizations.

2017-08-07 11:20:12 UTC  

As I said, I'll wait and see. I'm just voicing concern based on what I've seen and heard. If I am wrong and everyone is on the same page, disregard me.

2017-08-07 11:22:08 UTC  

I understand. There is an official security plan and all organizational leadership should have a copy. They need to pass along the pertinent info. You may need to inquire with them.

2017-08-07 11:24:02 UTC  

Here is hoping it all goes more smoothly than this did.

2017-08-07 11:26:11 UTC  

Yea no shit

2017-08-07 14:15:08 UTC  

For a bunch of so called fascists you all sound like a bunch of damn athenian democrats

Niggas need to learn to follow orders