Message from @lolyouwish
Discord ID: 344071403852529674
@WhiteTrash I am not sure who you think is not being communicated with, but we have had leadership meetings every week for the last month, and everyone in those meetings was made aware of the word not to show up early multiple times. If people do show up early the police will not allow them into the park.
Well apparently the actual leadership of the various groups haven't been informed because different groups are coordinating together to show up early and discuss event tactics, and the people I've heard back from in the League have no clue this official security planning thing existed.
And the only outreach anyone can reference is messages that may or may not have been posted among the hundreds on the event page, which no one pays attention to since it is a shit show.
So from where I am standing, it really looks like the official organizers dropped the ball.
What groups specificly?
LS, TWP, and VA that I know of.
All three of those groups are folded into the larger plan. Their leadership have been at every single leadership meeting.
You are spreading fake news. Stop it now.
Really? I was unaware Dr Hill was in this Discord server, and my recruiter who has been helping us plan League activities has no clue this official planning thing exists.
I'm not spreading fake news at all.
I am saying the people I am hearing back from have no clue this is going on.
And Heimbach himself has made comments on Facebook about working with LS to get there early.
LS has a liason on this server, if your leadership is passing you bad info that is your problem. Heimbach is aware of the security plan.
Then it seems people are disregarding your security plan, because last I heard the plan was we were getting there early.
So I don't know what to tell you.
I will leave it at this, becuase this is not a productive conversation. If people show up ahead of the main security force they will either not be allowed into the inner cordon by the police, or will be physically removed before our permit starts at 10.
Look, I'll stop. I'm just letting you know that if my leadership says "Hey, we are getting there early" then I'm gonna be there early.
Physically removed by whom and in what capacity?
physically removed by the police, as in a trespass order
So you are going to have multiple speakers for the event and their respective groups removed for trespassing for not following your plan?
Physical removal? Buncha fascists!
No. That is the intent of police.
I see. Well we will see how it plays out I guess.
They do not want us to have confrontations with antifa
Antifa was going to try to occupy the park in order to try to shut down the event
Literal Fun Police
So instead of us having to confront them first thing in the morning, the police said that the park will be closed until our event starts. If anyone gets inside prior to 10 they will be removed.
If they don't let us into the actual event area I doubt that will be a problem, I am sure no one has a problem waiting and making a presence around the park. I highly doubt anyone will be removed for trespassing prior to the actual permit time.
Then we wait outside, sounds fine to me.
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I'm there, Bowlther
Vladislav and Illegal will be too
Do what you want. This is not a productive conversation. There was a reason why the instructions were laid out the way they were. If people want to agitate by showing up early, fine. It has been made clear that the littlest provocation will get the whole thing shoahed which is why we told all the security personel to march in with the main force at 10.
Well that is where you are wrong. I'm not doing what I want, I'm following the directions of my leadership. If they say wait, I wait. If they say we are getting there early, we are getting there early. I'm not sure who your liason is, but from what I've seen the various groups aren't aware of any central coordination and working among themselves independently of this server. I.E. Heimbach saying he is showing up early with TWP and the League.
Hell last time I talked to my state Chairman about security for the event, he said the primary organizers were the Virginia League. So I kinda doubt he is aware you guys exist either.
There is an official Op Order and all organizations should follow it. Vanguard plans to disseminate it and follow it. The security liaisons from TWP and LS should have that order also and should be disseminating it to they're organizations.
As I said, I'll wait and see. I'm just voicing concern based on what I've seen and heard. If I am wrong and everyone is on the same page, disregard me.
I understand. There is an official security plan and all organizational leadership should have a copy. They need to pass along the pertinent info. You may need to inquire with them.
Here is hoping it all goes more smoothly than this did.
Yea no shit