Message from missliterallywho in Charlottesville 2.0 #general_1

2017-07-27 15:46:33 UTC  
2017-07-27 15:46:34 UTC  

I've been very back and forth on whether to attend the rally, based on estimations of violence. If security would rather we not attend, I am more than happy to stay behind and prep for the party.

2017-07-27 15:46:36 UTC  

I am estimating based on who i know that arent in this server

2017-07-27 15:47:20 UTC  

I don't think anyone in security is going to come out and say it but ...

2017-07-27 15:47:46 UTC  

McCarthy did, I scrolled up

2017-07-27 15:47:49 UTC  

I know Hunter mentioned that 534 had confirmed on FB. Plus here. So 500-1000. Pretty wide estimate

2017-07-27 15:47:56 UTC  

@missliterallywho the majority of attendees would rather women not attend. Ill be one of the main guys in TWPs shield wall and ideally I don't want to have to be concerned about protecting more noncombatants in afdition to the speakers

2017-07-27 15:48:07 UTC  

loool ok true then.

2017-07-27 15:48:30 UTC  

Just the sheer size of the crowd alone is enough to keep me indoors tbh

2017-07-27 15:48:42 UTC  

@missliterallywho I hope you guys still go have your own event and not to be a dick but yeah we cannot protect you.

2017-07-27 15:48:48 UTC  

And that park is not large

2017-07-27 15:49:04 UTC  

I mean sure. Maybe in the worst case scenario I COULD fight off several times our number and protect noncombatants. But why test it?

2017-07-27 15:49:44 UTC  

We don't want to come off like jerks but seriously it's a bad idea in my opinion.

2017-07-27 15:50:10 UTC  

I will be CC. It will not be drawn unless someone is trying to smash my skull with a brick

2017-07-27 15:50:14 UTC  

TWP/VA/NF in general will not have women present but organize something else.

2017-07-27 15:50:50 UTC  

If other groups bring their own then it is what it is and we will do our best.

2017-07-27 15:51:05 UTC  

Most IE women are not going to the rally, as far as I know

2017-07-27 15:51:47 UTC  

That is good. Maybe all you guys could collab on an alt plan?

2017-07-27 15:52:05 UTC  

ok my gf doesn't tell me shit so.

2017-07-27 15:53:45 UTC  

I don't think the plans have been set in stone yet? Idk

2017-07-27 15:54:10 UTC  

The higher-ups are working on it, haven't shared with us yet

2017-07-27 15:54:37 UTC  

Not as far as the rally itself. Only as far as specific groups.

2017-07-27 15:56:03 UTC  

"Women" is basically a specific group

2017-07-27 15:56:12 UTC  

We are grouped on here, so

2017-07-27 15:56:21 UTC  

The afterparty plans will be shared closer to the event for obvious reasons. You ladies will be given time to make it happen.

2017-07-27 15:57:55 UTC  

If it involves booking any sort of vendors for chairs/food/etc. it would be better to know sooner rather than later. If it's just us bringing miscellaneous food, it doesn't really matter too much

2017-07-27 15:58:46 UTC  

Let me amend what I've been saying. I have no intel on violence that's being planned. My thoughts about women at events are in general because I do think we want women to support us in the mainstream, and then seeing other women involved will help fascilitate that. But obviously a free for all with strong potential for violence isn't where we want our women.

2017-07-27 15:59:07 UTC  

I had already said I would be okay with staying back if that's what was decided.

2017-07-27 15:59:19 UTC  

Yep. There are other events that would be better suited.

2017-07-27 15:59:47 UTC  

Ive been pretty deep on enemy Intel and it doesnt look like it'll be an easy day

2017-07-27 15:59:50 UTC  

I think having women at cville 1.0 was good for optics

2017-07-27 16:00:06 UTC  

But that was completely different than this will be

2017-07-27 16:00:25 UTC  

I dont think it will happen but antifa is pissed. They were saying that if they saw another torch light march gasoline and super soakers would be a good idea

2017-07-27 16:00:43 UTC  

If that gives you an idea of where their mind is at.

2017-07-27 16:01:22 UTC  

They don't have that kind of agency though. They always wuss out. (Fingers crossed)

2017-07-27 16:01:46 UTC  

Yeah they probably don't. . . until they do

2017-07-27 16:01:54 UTC  

But even if they don't.

2017-07-27 16:02:00 UTC  

They are thinking about it

2017-07-27 16:02:34 UTC  

Also remember that it won't just be antifa but nigger and cholo gangbangers

2017-07-27 16:02:43 UTC  

I will stay behind and wringe my hands worrying for my brother's and boyfriend's safety 😣

2017-07-27 16:03:15 UTC  

I think it's already been said, but VanAm alongside other groups in the NF, is not bringing any women to the event. There's an entire future of less public, more family friendly events which will be more suitable.