Message by Fevs, in Charlottesville 2.0, #general_1
Joe Normie isn't going to strap on boots and fight communists with you no matter how much you lie about being a White Nationalist and Anti-Semite.
What this illustrates, to me, is the prioritization of social capital and outward appearance over true self presentation of ideas and goals. This is a very feminine behavior.
If we inhibit or deny any tactic we are limiting ourselves.
As things get more tumultuous people will tend radical. One direction or another. It’s only a matter of time before we have people flocking to us and demanding radicalization. We’d better be ready to provide that to them.
Who says anyone is lying about being a white nationalist or anti-Semite? Going around LARPing about wanting a 4th Reich and not softening your image will make Joe Normie shut down and not even want to listen to your point of view. None of this is about lying to appeal to normies. It's about rebranding and being smart about your rhetoric to open up conversation with those on the fence. Obviously, there's a time and place for harsher rhetoric and tactics. And that time will come as whites continue to feel more out of place and discriminated against.
There's a place for and time for everyone from 'moderates' like IE to Aryan Brotherhood prison gang alumni.
We just need leadership with the ingenuity and stomach to embrace a variety of tactics.
For now whomever is organizing earns the right to call the shots. If anyone doesn't like it:
Create your own brand and publicize your own events
I wouldn't call really IE "moderate". Not after being involved in so much activism with the organization and 1 on 1 conversations with IE leadership. Although I am happy we come off that way. We put a lot of work into our brand and optics, and it pays off with how many high quality applicants we usher into the family every week.
We throw them off by with nice guy nationalism... then BAM! Slam the door on the oven.
Yeah I see IE as moderate since the only thing they are pushing for is whiteness, no preference in fashy economic systems. Barebones white nationalism
IE isn't setting the edge. That's not their role. By have always having someone more extreme it gives anyone less extreme wiggle room.
Well IE is 14 with an optional 88.
This is how the left has worked for a century and it's why they are freaking out now that we have groups even accidentally employing these tactics.
And by having slightly more extremes it tests the waters a bit on what you can get away with in an ideology
Yup, IE can speak to the masses. This frees up the shitlords to rustle some jimmies, and they just need to agree and amplify.
In a world with Richard Spencer getting any attention at all Rep Steve King and Clay Higgins can say things that people yawn at.
We're just not a political organization. We work on a metapolitical level to influence political change. We keep politics out of the public eye.
I agree with the strategy of convincing those on the fence. That's where we are in today's political landscape.
Redpill all the civic nationalists
Focusing on exclusively "red pilling all of group X" is poor strategy. People are systematically trained to reject extremes.
The tactic is to keep putting the message out there in all forms possible to all receptive audiences through a variety of medium.
The power of audacity is what draws people in.
We need more numbers and we ultimately need to win the hearts and minds of the voters. We're going to need to play the Democratic system until it bites the dust
*which is hopefully soon reee*
Extremists don't "try to be extreme" find your niche & push the agenda. 14 words is the bare minimum. Personally I won't waste my time on the civics, I think you'll have better luck converting left wing radicals. Revolutionaries are revolutionaries, they just need to wake up to the fact that they're fighting for the wrong team. Civics seek to maintain a system that is bent on white genocide. We will not vote our way out of this, but I'm happy to help my white brothers & sisters any time, any place. So I'll see all you moderates in Cville
Democracy has clearly failed but it has a military holding it's lifeless corpse up for the time being
Fully agreed, they will be there just like they are at every event to show their power, by continuing to keep the 2 opposing factions at Bay they demonstrate to the Normie that they are the true power in the street. Lemmings follow power. This is why erosion of system power is fundamental to our cause.
Some civics still think they can vote out of it. The treatment of Trump has been a red pill of its own to others.
I know a couple guys who were Bernie followers who got red pilled when the Jew reverted to type. They are now solid 14 words and exploring 88
We will all talk more in Cville, looking forward to it!
I think it's good we recognize that the full truth and natural order must be restored
There's no voting out of this.
The masses don't want your message, it's unsafe to hold it. The system crashes down on them and threatens their livelihood for it.
The lemmings will follow along with what the system says to believe, blue is red, peace is war, slavery is freedom. So long as their comfort is assured.
Telling the truth is essential but another part of the truth is we need muscle to insure it gets out there and is not further suffocated by the system.
What is wrong with the "but muh PR!!!" Isn't that people necessarily disagree with you on that but it's the wrong mentality to placate your enemy and seek to be subjugated to the opinion of the masses.
Any contentious event needs the polished appearance around the speaker for public consumption. The hoi poloi around for atmospherics. These dedicated activist give the appearances of mass appeal.
Then there needs to be a protection/enforcement we all know what they are for. There is no "minimum threshold." Anyone who wants/likes to fight and has a modicum of discipline is welcome
If the Proud Boys, Aryan Brotherhood, or random biker gangs want to come knock heads, cool.
Funny enough, I am going to PR school right now. The most applicable takeaway so far is that you need to network with third-party allies and call on them to push limited agendas that fit within your broad agenda.
—Which is somewhat what we've been doing.