Message from @ETBrooD

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2019-10-24 00:54:08 UTC  

So at least I wouldn't *not* recommend putting yourself out there, after all you don't have much to risk.
I'm only saying it's easy for you.

2019-10-24 00:55:04 UTC  

Other people don't have that privilege of being lone wolves or having low financial risk

2019-10-24 00:57:44 UTC  

It's not that uncommon. Look I can give you an example. I got celled here for posting a meme that was considered 'NSFW'. My *boss* thought it was funny and likely the *owner of the company* would have laughed at it. Because outside of academia very few people consider these things to be serious offenses. We are too busy making things that work.

2019-10-24 00:58:30 UTC  

Celled here

2019-10-24 00:58:39 UTC  

Is that your idea of serious consequences?

2019-10-24 00:59:03 UTC  

Do you understand that people like Harris and Peterson have *existential fears* ?

2019-10-24 00:59:21 UTC  

Posting rights or whatever on discord is child's play

2019-10-24 00:59:39 UTC  

How do you even compare that, it's ridiculous

2019-10-24 01:00:13 UTC  

Like playing with plastic swords in the backyard and calling it real war

2019-10-24 01:02:50 UTC  

Peterson and Harris have existential fears because their careers are based in membership in a culture that is censorious. I don't. Most people don't. Most people live in a world where **nobody** reads the NY Times.

2019-10-24 01:03:19 UTC  

That is precisely my point, how did you not get this

2019-10-24 01:03:29 UTC  

I was talking about people losing opportunities in their own respective fields

2019-10-24 01:03:45 UTC  

What do you have to lose compared to them, nothing

2019-10-24 01:04:06 UTC  

And I was talking about the narrow feild of perspectives people like Harris are exposed to.

2019-10-24 01:04:35 UTC  

I explained that the people who are actually capable of standing up to Harris have too much riding on it

2019-10-24 01:05:07 UTC  

It makes no sense for them to challenge him, it's a net negative risk-reward scenario

2019-10-24 01:05:20 UTC  

So those who do "challenge" him tend to agree with him

2019-10-24 01:05:38 UTC  

This is why echo chambers happen

2019-10-24 01:05:49 UTC  

Among other reasons, but it's the number one reason

2019-10-24 01:06:38 UTC  

The echo chamber happens because of selection bias. When you only speak to people within a narrow demographic.....

2019-10-24 01:06:54 UTC  

Echo chambers happen because it's economically sound to build them, and therefore also emotionally

2019-10-24 01:07:13 UTC  

If you're not in an echo chamber your risk goes up, but your reward does not go up proportionally

2019-10-24 01:07:30 UTC  

In fact the reward can actually go down

2019-10-24 01:07:45 UTC  

It's a stupid idea to be outside of an echo chamber unless you've built yourself a safety net

2019-10-24 01:17:30 UTC  

It is not a safety net. It is living in a world where they are not necessary.

2019-10-24 01:18:38 UTC  

Semantics, that's basically the same thing as a safety net

2019-10-24 01:19:57 UTC  

If you're not in an echo chamber but you can criticize your peers, then you must be safe from them or else you couldn't voice your concerns

2019-10-24 01:20:27 UTC  

It would also mean no one else is listening in who can harm you

2019-10-24 01:20:31 UTC  

Or those you care about

2019-10-24 01:21:06 UTC  

To think otherwise is to be of the naive mindset that the world is a safe place

2019-10-24 01:21:20 UTC  

It's quite the opposite, people are very antagonistic towards dissenters

2019-10-24 01:26:42 UTC  

You do not understand. In my world these people are not dissenters. They are normal. The staff at the Times are abnormal aliens.

2019-10-24 01:27:34 UTC  

I don't see your point

2019-10-24 01:27:47 UTC  

It's not about what you think they are

2019-10-24 01:27:54 UTC  

It's about what other people think they are

2019-10-24 01:28:14 UTC  

The lynchmob doesn't care what is right and wrong

2019-10-24 01:28:23 UTC  

They care that they get their sacrifice

2019-10-24 01:33:32 UTC  

Yes other people. Normal people, do not care much about that lynch mob.

2019-10-24 01:33:45 UTC  

The lynch mob doesn't care if they care

2019-10-24 01:33:50 UTC  

They lynch away anyway

2019-10-24 01:34:05 UTC  

Your argument is just so bad, when the evidence screams so loud