Message from @ManAnimal

Discord ID: 599103999718981642


2019-07-12 05:03:32 UTC  

I would caveat that the State is neccessary.

2019-07-12 05:03:35 UTC  

and it's less potential for corruption

2019-07-12 05:03:57 UTC  

fill the void with community specific laws

2019-07-12 05:03:58 UTC  

because a community doesn't influence, reward nor enforce with 'laws'

2019-07-12 05:04:05 UTC  

that statment misses the point

2019-07-12 05:04:11 UTC  

LAW is explict

2019-07-12 05:04:15 UTC  

why can't it?

2019-07-12 05:04:16 UTC  

ETHICS is implict

2019-07-12 05:04:26 UTC  

Ethics are the basis for the laws

2019-07-12 05:04:31 UTC  

Community deals which ethics

2019-07-12 05:04:40 UTC  

Anyway be home in about 30 mikes..don't burn the server down in my absence.

2019-07-12 05:04:41 UTC  

the State deals with laws

2019-07-12 05:04:52 UTC  

these are totally different mechanism

2019-07-12 05:04:52 UTC  

I think your conception of "community" is flawed

2019-07-12 05:05:07 UTC  

I'm talking a group of individuals within a certain area

2019-07-12 05:05:08 UTC  

i can remember when we HAD 'community'

2019-07-12 05:05:10 UTC  

@Laucivol the state is not neccessary

2019-07-12 05:05:10 UTC  

small scale

2019-07-12 05:05:21 UTC  

(Also, stop boosting my ego. It's not helpful.)

2019-07-12 05:05:21 UTC  

whereas the state is a larger governing body

2019-07-12 05:05:24 UTC  

i am not so sure your grasp what i am refering to

2019-07-12 05:05:32 UTC  

you see to assume the "community" is the people

2019-07-12 05:05:36 UTC  

and the state is seperate

2019-07-12 05:05:45 UTC  

in the USA, we were ALWAYS defined by acceptance of certain core VALUES

2019-07-12 05:06:10 UTC  

community enforced these values and ridiculed those that didn't respect them

2019-07-12 05:06:34 UTC  

I'm saying you are missusing terms and my misunderstanding comes from his missuse

2019-07-12 05:06:51 UTC  

today, the mechanism of social ridcule has been hijacked

2019-07-12 05:06:57 UTC  

when you say "community" it appears to be that you are talking about the people

2019-07-12 05:06:59 UTC  

there is not community

2019-07-12 05:07:06 UTC  

and the state keeps filling the void

2019-07-12 05:07:12 UTC  

not a hypothetical community

2019-07-12 05:07:19 UTC  

But a concept of the people as a collective

2019-07-12 05:07:23 UTC  

which is wrong

2019-07-12 05:07:40 UTC  

don't talk to me if you are going to be a post-modernist

2019-07-12 05:07:48 UTC  

I'm not

2019-07-12 05:07:54 UTC  

yes, it is a concept which i labeled 'community'

2019-07-12 05:08:02 UTC  

is the the proper label? perhaps not

2019-07-12 05:08:05 UTC  

I'm saying that your miss use of the terms is creating issues with my understanding

2019-07-12 05:08:09 UTC  

that doesn't invalidate the concept

2019-07-12 05:08:15 UTC  

just the label

2019-07-12 05:08:20 UTC  

Well the concept is flawed