Message from @Muten

Discord ID: 599103634118279184


2019-07-12 05:00:09 UTC  

https://youtu.be/2vpa3V4-g5A LEAF DOES POLITICAL TEST (NOT CLICKBAIT) (GONE SEXUAL)

2019-07-12 05:00:20 UTC  

An agreeable observation. @ManAnimal

2019-07-12 05:00:24 UTC  

I mostly did this because people in another server kept trying to call me far-right, and I haven't done one of these in a while.

2019-07-12 05:00:42 UTC  

@ManAnimal Are you suggesting that the state should parent children more than their parents do?

2019-07-12 05:00:54 UTC  

Is/ought.

2019-07-12 05:01:08 UTC  

The United Caliphate of Al-England and Northern Ireland

2019-07-12 05:01:10 UTC  

noegative

2019-07-12 05:01:19 UTC  

It is that the State overrides the parents, the question is ought it be so?

2019-07-12 05:01:23 UTC  

i am saying the EXACT opposite

2019-07-12 05:01:48 UTC  

And I agree, that it ought *not* be so.

2019-07-12 05:01:53 UTC  

that it is IMPORTANT to have a 'grey zone' that the community has juristiction over

2019-07-12 05:02:18 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/598761542200197120/599103210556489728/1490397680034.png

2019-07-12 05:02:25 UTC  

yes, everyone is subject to the law, BUT if no one finds out.....

2019-07-12 05:03:00 UTC  

the State needs to keep it's distance and that means a community must fill that void

2019-07-12 05:03:17 UTC  

@ManAnimal the state shouldn't exist

2019-07-12 05:03:17 UTC  

why can't the community have it's own laws

2019-07-12 05:03:19 UTC  

if you don't have that community, the vaccum will be filled with the State

2019-07-12 05:03:24 UTC  

that way it's offical

2019-07-12 05:03:32 UTC  

I would caveat that the State is neccessary.

2019-07-12 05:03:35 UTC  

and it's less potential for corruption

2019-07-12 05:03:57 UTC  

fill the void with community specific laws

2019-07-12 05:03:58 UTC  

because a community doesn't influence, reward nor enforce with 'laws'

2019-07-12 05:04:05 UTC  

that statment misses the point

2019-07-12 05:04:11 UTC  

LAW is explict

2019-07-12 05:04:15 UTC  

why can't it?

2019-07-12 05:04:16 UTC  

ETHICS is implict

2019-07-12 05:04:26 UTC  

Ethics are the basis for the laws

2019-07-12 05:04:31 UTC  

Community deals which ethics

2019-07-12 05:04:40 UTC  

Anyway be home in about 30 mikes..don't burn the server down in my absence.

2019-07-12 05:04:41 UTC  

the State deals with laws

2019-07-12 05:04:52 UTC  

these are totally different mechanism

2019-07-12 05:04:52 UTC  

I think your conception of "community" is flawed

2019-07-12 05:05:07 UTC  

I'm talking a group of individuals within a certain area

2019-07-12 05:05:08 UTC  

i can remember when we HAD 'community'

2019-07-12 05:05:10 UTC  

@Laucivol the state is not neccessary

2019-07-12 05:05:10 UTC  

small scale

2019-07-12 05:05:21 UTC  

(Also, stop boosting my ego. It's not helpful.)

2019-07-12 05:05:21 UTC  

whereas the state is a larger governing body

2019-07-12 05:05:24 UTC  

i am not so sure your grasp what i am refering to

2019-07-12 05:05:32 UTC  

you see to assume the "community" is the people

2019-07-12 05:05:36 UTC  

and the state is seperate