Message from @ManAnimal

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2019-07-12 05:06:10 UTC  

community enforced these values and ridiculed those that didn't respect them

2019-07-12 05:06:34 UTC  

I'm saying you are missusing terms and my misunderstanding comes from his missuse

2019-07-12 05:06:51 UTC  

today, the mechanism of social ridcule has been hijacked

2019-07-12 05:06:57 UTC  

when you say "community" it appears to be that you are talking about the people

2019-07-12 05:06:59 UTC  

there is not community

2019-07-12 05:07:06 UTC  

and the state keeps filling the void

2019-07-12 05:07:12 UTC  

not a hypothetical community

2019-07-12 05:07:19 UTC  

But a concept of the people as a collective

2019-07-12 05:07:23 UTC  

which is wrong

2019-07-12 05:07:40 UTC  

don't talk to me if you are going to be a post-modernist

2019-07-12 05:07:48 UTC  

I'm not

2019-07-12 05:07:54 UTC  

yes, it is a concept which i labeled 'community'

2019-07-12 05:08:02 UTC  

is the the proper label? perhaps not

2019-07-12 05:08:05 UTC  

I'm saying that your miss use of the terms is creating issues with my understanding

2019-07-12 05:08:09 UTC  

that doesn't invalidate the concept

2019-07-12 05:08:15 UTC  

just the label

2019-07-12 05:08:20 UTC  

Well the concept is flawed

2019-07-12 05:08:24 UTC  

as well

2019-07-12 05:08:29 UTC  

but the post-modernist can't see past superfical labels

2019-07-12 05:08:34 UTC  

indeed we must have decentralized communties that makes their own laws, if we can achive this the state becomes unneccessary

2019-07-12 05:08:35 UTC  

which are you?

2019-07-12 05:08:45 UTC  

The state should exist just shouldn't intervene in domestic affairs as it does.

2019-07-12 05:08:50 UTC  

not 'laws'

2019-07-12 05:08:51 UTC  

and your miss use of the terms is hiding the fact that it is a flawed concept

2019-07-12 05:08:55 UTC  

we have the state for that

2019-07-12 05:09:10 UTC  

@SageTheory no it shouldn't exist at all

2019-07-12 05:09:15 UTC  

besides, 98% of life happens BEYOND the 'laws'

2019-07-12 05:09:22 UTC  

I can't explain why your concept is wrong without explaining that the terms you use are wrong

2019-07-12 05:09:37 UTC  

because if I didn't I'd have no way to explain why your concept is wrong

2019-07-12 05:09:37 UTC  

you don't learn killing is wrong because someone breaks the law and the state punishes you

2019-07-12 05:09:53 UTC  

How are we gonna go to war if we don’t have a state

2019-07-12 05:09:54 UTC  

Lol sorry ancap Utopia is retarded humans aren't built that way.

2019-07-12 05:10:25 UTC  

the community influences people to follow certain social norms that are aligned with the 'law' because law takes it's cue from community precedence

2019-07-12 05:10:32 UTC  

Humans are social creatures, so they'll inevitably create some sort of community.

2019-07-12 05:10:34 UTC  

ancap utopia existed

2019-07-12 05:10:37 UTC  

it was called kowloon walled city

2019-07-12 05:10:41 UTC  

and it was pretty ebic

2019-07-12 05:10:45 UTC  

@SageTheory AnCaps don't claim there way of doing things is "Utopia" retard

2019-07-12 05:10:49 UTC  

You have head cannoned this out of thin air, there is so much spaghetti in your statements @ManAnimal

2019-07-12 05:10:58 UTC  

sigh* if this is going to be an 'ancap argument' that is whole other argument

2019-07-12 05:11:05 UTC  

@Terry Arcona Well their ideal is utopian