yo you still havent provided me a map of nationalism in 1930's ukraine @Death in June

Ukraine. Bread Basket of the Sahara

Again, if you don't understand what I mean when I say the sacrifices were in our interest... Serve, then come back to me about it.

i can't because nothing like that exists

i can point to the ethnic distribution present in ukraine and the fact that ukrainian nationalist movements were most prominent in the west, however

you mean 'planned uprisings'

western powers have fanned the anti-russian flames ever since the wall felll

some of the worst hit parts of the ukraine were some of the parts with the largest russian diaspora, some of the least hit parts the parts with the greatest portion of ukes

hell, the last Ukraine president reached an agreement with russia before crimea

Thinking the wars are pointless does not mean not understanding why and the cost people paid

Your presentation says otherwise.

but yeah supporting the military for the purpose of fermenting a future insurrection is fine

he recently was quoted for admitting how naive he was that the west wouldn't have him removed from office

Who's that, God, Porochenko?

always get the names confused... the one before the fascist that was recently removed

The Russia-facing guy was removed in a pseudo-coup some years ago

The one before the one before the comedfian

yeah, that's him then

Agitated by foreign NGO's funded by people including George Soros

what is this

Why do people care about Ukraine though it's nothing new

I'm not saying the guy was clean, he was a Russian shill, just that the place is a mess

jesus FUCK

just the GOOGLE IMAGE RESUILTS FOR THAT MAKE ME WANT TO DIE FROM CRINGE

You have to care about Ukraine, they're the buffer between Europe and Russia

why does that mean u have to care

Same reason you should care about what your neighbour does, June

not sure either way, but ANYTHING was perferable to the dickhead that took pleasure in risking a conflict and poking the Russian Bear every chance he could and firing on his own people

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No I think a lot of Europe would be better in Russia's sphere

Not all

yeah russia expanding is fine

kiev HATES russia; always has. They treated those in Crimea like red-headed step children

But some major things would be fixed

I think Russia would be better in Europe's sphere

I think America would be better if we cut our sphere down to size

for kiev it was about land. for those in the east, it was about not being the 'bitch of the west'

i can see why they wanted to leave. i cannot see why they would want to stay like Kiev suggested they did

Putin is ex-KGB and a russian nationalist. He'd kill for his country and maybe even to stay in power. And what politican in the US wouldn't do the EXACT same thing?

Well to be fair, I think most wouldn't