Message from @Vindi

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2019-07-12 07:30:29 UTC  

they started with aggression towards neighbors, gobbled everything up they could, they found the biggest target, started a war, lost, and fell apart

2019-07-12 07:30:44 UTC  

it's an enormous mistake to let them do that again

2019-07-12 07:31:02 UTC  

China is a non threat rn if the US stops trade with China China's whole economy crashes when America feels slight shockwaves at most

2019-07-12 07:31:45 UTC  

I think that's an exaggeration. there is a risk of China leapfrogging the US with different military tech. and china's economy is super self sufficient, way more than the US

2019-07-12 07:32:16 UTC  

if china and US cut ties tomorrow, china would be fine, US would have lots of major shocks as the cheap chinese crap isn't available anymore

2019-07-12 07:32:24 UTC  

it would adjust of course, which is good, but it would take time

2019-07-12 07:32:58 UTC  

And we'd still trade with the world if we need to and have actual allies that would fight for US, like the UK would sail to the US mainland to protect the US but most of our "allies" wouldn't

2019-07-12 07:33:06 UTC  

Fuck the ones that wouldn't

2019-07-12 07:33:21 UTC  

only if you hadn't already sold the world down the river

2019-07-12 07:34:02 UTC  

they certainly wouldn't sail to help trump. they hate him with every bone in their body

2019-07-12 07:34:09 UTC  

even the UK I think literally couldn't help

2019-07-12 07:34:31 UTC  

their own defense department has warned that their own multiculturalism may prevent them from taking military action in certain parts of the world

2019-07-12 07:35:26 UTC  

US would feel pretty big Short term effects if they cut ties with China but the Chinese economy is only strong at the moment because it uses the US as a foundation

2019-07-12 07:35:36 UTC  

ie: imagine the UK decided to join the US in some war. basically most of the UK would riot. left wingers, muslims, young people, pretty much all immigrants of any kind, etc, have no investment in helping the UK help the US. only the old generation would

2019-07-12 07:35:48 UTC  

Remove that and China is still economically strong

2019-07-12 07:35:55 UTC  

I think we're past the point of no return with China's self sufficiency

2019-07-12 07:35:57 UTC  

But not superpower level

2019-07-12 07:36:13 UTC  

yes continuing to feed into it is a bad idea and the US needs to foster self sufficiency again

2019-07-12 07:36:18 UTC  

dunno i've found WGAP side-splitting the second i heard him talk about them politicians

2019-07-12 07:36:23 UTC  

which is why trump's tarrif strategy is a good one

2019-07-12 07:37:06 UTC  

The other thing I mentioned was military tech. US seems to be a bit stuck in the 20th century. China is leapfrogging straight to space weapons and hypersonic rail guns.

2019-07-12 07:37:33 UTC  

If china can develop effective anti-ship railguns, that pretty much counters the whole strategy of the US military. If they can railgun the aircraft carriers, what's the US gonna do?

2019-07-12 07:38:02 UTC  

The us could easily be almost entirely self sufficient in a few years if our leaders had any clue what to do

2019-07-12 07:38:05 UTC  

the US also has little will to fight, though that might be changing

2019-07-12 07:38:20 UTC  

yes agree, US is well poised, but it would be a big effort

2019-07-12 07:38:38 UTC  

and even a 0.1% GDP cost would have the corporate media howling at trump's anti-market agenda blah blah

2019-07-12 07:38:59 UTC  

look at brexit -> hey we can have sovereignty again but it will cost us a couple percent of GDP

2019-07-12 07:39:07 UTC  

oh heavens tebetsy

2019-07-12 07:39:18 UTC  

I think the us populace in some level realize like there's was no reason to be in Vietnam or other similar wars

2019-07-12 07:39:33 UTC  

well, there was a reason. communism

2019-07-12 07:39:41 UTC  

it's not a reason for them to be involved

2019-07-12 07:39:44 UTC  

and the US successfully stopped communism from spreading around the world

2019-07-12 07:39:51 UTC  

But like Japan and 9/11 no one was against it

2019-07-12 07:39:52 UTC  

this only matters to the ruling class

2019-07-12 07:40:07 UTC  

that's why vietnam was continued and escelated by 5 different presidents from both republicans and democrats

2019-07-12 07:40:25 UTC  

they thought it was important to do, and we don't know how it would have turned out if the US didn't do that

2019-07-12 07:41:01 UTC  

Why is it our job to save you dumbasses when you all fuck up, if we remove the safety net you'll have to learn

2019-07-12 07:41:09 UTC  

communism is an inherently violent, expansionist and seditious ideology. the US was right to vociferously oppose it's spread

2019-07-12 07:41:24 UTC  

and look now how cultural marxism finally has a foothold in the US and the west

2019-07-12 07:41:29 UTC  

lol

2019-07-12 07:41:36 UTC  

what you're calling "cultural marxism" is the product of liberalism