Message from @Vir
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It helps the US if the world likes the US
and if you surrender the world to China, you're just feeding a bigger monster that will eventually try to eat you too
i would be fine with pulling out of the most the world and focusing on building a sphere around the anglosphere and western hemisphere
China has initiated huge wars every single time it "rose", which is like 4 or 5 times
they started with aggression towards neighbors, gobbled everything up they could, they found the biggest target, started a war, lost, and fell apart
it's an enormous mistake to let them do that again
China is a non threat rn if the US stops trade with China China's whole economy crashes when America feels slight shockwaves at most
I think that's an exaggeration. there is a risk of China leapfrogging the US with different military tech. and china's economy is super self sufficient, way more than the US
if china and US cut ties tomorrow, china would be fine, US would have lots of major shocks as the cheap chinese crap isn't available anymore
it would adjust of course, which is good, but it would take time
And we'd still trade with the world if we need to and have actual allies that would fight for US, like the UK would sail to the US mainland to protect the US but most of our "allies" wouldn't
Fuck the ones that wouldn't
only if you hadn't already sold the world down the river
they certainly wouldn't sail to help trump. they hate him with every bone in their body
even the UK I think literally couldn't help
their own defense department has warned that their own multiculturalism may prevent them from taking military action in certain parts of the world
US would feel pretty big Short term effects if they cut ties with China but the Chinese economy is only strong at the moment because it uses the US as a foundation
ie: imagine the UK decided to join the US in some war. basically most of the UK would riot. left wingers, muslims, young people, pretty much all immigrants of any kind, etc, have no investment in helping the UK help the US. only the old generation would
Remove that and China is still economically strong
I think we're past the point of no return with China's self sufficiency
yes continuing to feed into it is a bad idea and the US needs to foster self sufficiency again
dunno i've found WGAP side-splitting the second i heard him talk about them politicians
which is why trump's tarrif strategy is a good one
The other thing I mentioned was military tech. US seems to be a bit stuck in the 20th century. China is leapfrogging straight to space weapons and hypersonic rail guns.
If china can develop effective anti-ship railguns, that pretty much counters the whole strategy of the US military. If they can railgun the aircraft carriers, what's the US gonna do?
The us could easily be almost entirely self sufficient in a few years if our leaders had any clue what to do
the US also has little will to fight, though that might be changing
yes agree, US is well poised, but it would be a big effort
and even a 0.1% GDP cost would have the corporate media howling at trump's anti-market agenda blah blah
look at brexit -> hey we can have sovereignty again but it will cost us a couple percent of GDP
oh heavens tebetsy
I think the us populace in some level realize like there's was no reason to be in Vietnam or other similar wars
well, there was a reason. communism
it's not a reason for them to be involved
and the US successfully stopped communism from spreading around the world
But like Japan and 9/11 no one was against it
this only matters to the ruling class
that's why vietnam was continued and escelated by 5 different presidents from both republicans and democrats
they thought it was important to do, and we don't know how it would have turned out if the US didn't do that
Why is it our job to save you dumbasses when you all fuck up, if we remove the safety net you'll have to learn