Message from @Vindi
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so can't argue there
when?
Nah I mean fuck most of the other countries let's get pre world war America back, no intervention, strong trade relationships, will only go to war for very close allies like the UK or for actual US interests
Well the thing is, that's basically surrendering the whole rest of the world to be China's hegemon
is the us not still the world hegemon? or are we simply saying it isn't because their grip on the world is not as strong as it was immediately following the death of their rival geopolitical bloc?
death?
yes
the eastern bloc died
the soviet empire
lol, it morphed, not died
US needs to oppose China now or China will "peacefully rise" by gobbling up all of asia and africa and bully europe around, and ultimately start a war with US
it morphed into russo-china
it did die what exists now is just a product of russia reasserting itself
During Trumps WH summit where Tim was at, the media was outside stuck and bitching at everything they could hear.
OH THE SALT
https://youtu.be/0d2eTFA7eIM
dab
and funnily despite the fact that russia is quite a bit weaker than the ussr they're managing to expand
And we care for the rest of the world why? Trade ties would be enough to keep a lot of the allies, and we could still oppose China without being super involved
Cut trade ties
Watch China fall
and if you surrender the world to China, you're just feeding a bigger monster that will eventually try to eat you too
i would be fine with pulling out of the most the world and focusing on building a sphere around the anglosphere and western hemisphere
China has initiated huge wars every single time it "rose", which is like 4 or 5 times
they started with aggression towards neighbors, gobbled everything up they could, they found the biggest target, started a war, lost, and fell apart
it's an enormous mistake to let them do that again
China is a non threat rn if the US stops trade with China China's whole economy crashes when America feels slight shockwaves at most
I think that's an exaggeration. there is a risk of China leapfrogging the US with different military tech. and china's economy is super self sufficient, way more than the US
if china and US cut ties tomorrow, china would be fine, US would have lots of major shocks as the cheap chinese crap isn't available anymore
it would adjust of course, which is good, but it would take time
And we'd still trade with the world if we need to and have actual allies that would fight for US, like the UK would sail to the US mainland to protect the US but most of our "allies" wouldn't
Fuck the ones that wouldn't
only if you hadn't already sold the world down the river
they certainly wouldn't sail to help trump. they hate him with every bone in their body
even the UK I think literally couldn't help
their own defense department has warned that their own multiculturalism may prevent them from taking military action in certain parts of the world
US would feel pretty big Short term effects if they cut ties with China but the Chinese economy is only strong at the moment because it uses the US as a foundation
ie: imagine the UK decided to join the US in some war. basically most of the UK would riot. left wingers, muslims, young people, pretty much all immigrants of any kind, etc, have no investment in helping the UK help the US. only the old generation would
Remove that and China is still economically strong
I think we're past the point of no return with China's self sufficiency
But not superpower level