Message from @Death in June

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2019-07-12 07:16:42 UTC  

kiev HATES russia; always has. They treated those in Crimea like red-headed step children

2019-07-12 07:16:51 UTC  

But some major things would be fixed

2019-07-12 07:16:51 UTC  

I think Russia would be better in Europe's sphere

2019-07-12 07:17:28 UTC  

I think America would be better if we cut our sphere down to size

2019-07-12 07:17:46 UTC  

for kiev it was about land. for those in the east, it was about not being the 'bitch of the west'

2019-07-12 07:18:10 UTC  

i can see why they wanted to leave. i cannot see why they would want to stay like Kiev suggested they did

2019-07-12 07:19:34 UTC  

Putin is ex-KGB and a russian nationalist. He'd kill for his country and maybe even to stay in power. And what politican in the US wouldn't do the EXACT same thing?

2019-07-12 07:21:08 UTC  

Well to be fair, I think most wouldn't

2019-07-12 07:21:21 UTC  

I wish they would

2019-07-12 07:21:29 UTC  

Kill to stay in power?

2019-07-12 07:22:08 UTC  

No I mean actually take action for the country

2019-07-12 07:22:14 UTC  

Not just whine

2019-07-12 07:22:26 UTC  

Or take action for other countries

2019-07-12 07:23:24 UTC  

Well the world was better when the US was the hegemon

2019-07-12 07:23:39 UTC  

so can't argue there

2019-07-12 07:25:12 UTC  

when?

2019-07-12 07:25:33 UTC  

Nah I mean fuck most of the other countries let's get pre world war America back, no intervention, strong trade relationships, will only go to war for very close allies like the UK or for actual US interests

2019-07-12 07:26:18 UTC  

Well the thing is, that's basically surrendering the whole rest of the world to be China's hegemon

2019-07-12 07:26:23 UTC  

is the us not still the world hegemon? or are we simply saying it isn't because their grip on the world is not as strong as it was immediately following the death of their rival geopolitical bloc?

2019-07-12 07:26:51 UTC  

death?

2019-07-12 07:26:56 UTC  

yes

2019-07-12 07:27:01 UTC  

the eastern bloc died

2019-07-12 07:27:05 UTC  

the soviet empire

2019-07-12 07:27:11 UTC  

lol, it morphed, not died

2019-07-12 07:27:13 UTC  

US needs to oppose China now or China will "peacefully rise" by gobbling up all of asia and africa and bully europe around, and ultimately start a war with US

2019-07-12 07:27:25 UTC  

it morphed into russo-china

2019-07-12 07:27:29 UTC  

it did die what exists now is just a product of russia reasserting itself

2019-07-12 07:27:34 UTC  

During Trumps WH summit where Tim was at, the media was outside stuck and bitching at everything they could hear.
OH THE SALT
https://youtu.be/0d2eTFA7eIM

2019-07-12 07:27:55 UTC  

dab

2019-07-12 07:28:05 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/598761542200197120/599139901132242954/lgbt.jpg

2019-07-12 07:28:12 UTC  

and funnily despite the fact that russia is quite a bit weaker than the ussr they're managing to expand

2019-07-12 07:28:25 UTC  

And we care for the rest of the world why? Trade ties would be enough to keep a lot of the allies, and we could still oppose China without being super involved

2019-07-12 07:28:30 UTC  

Cut trade ties

2019-07-12 07:28:36 UTC  

Watch China fall

2019-07-12 07:28:47 UTC  

It helps the US if the world likes the US

2019-07-12 07:29:16 UTC  

and if you surrender the world to China, you're just feeding a bigger monster that will eventually try to eat you too

2019-07-12 07:29:16 UTC  

i would be fine with pulling out of the most the world and focusing on building a sphere around the anglosphere and western hemisphere

2019-07-12 07:30:02 UTC  

China has initiated huge wars every single time it "rose", which is like 4 or 5 times

2019-07-12 07:30:29 UTC  

they started with aggression towards neighbors, gobbled everything up they could, they found the biggest target, started a war, lost, and fell apart

2019-07-12 07:30:44 UTC  

it's an enormous mistake to let them do that again

2019-07-12 07:31:02 UTC  

China is a non threat rn if the US stops trade with China China's whole economy crashes when America feels slight shockwaves at most