Probably wouldn't be bad to legalise abortion 50 years ago bc basically none would use it

__**NO HEART BEAT, THIS CLUMP OF CELLS GET THE YEET**__

@Polekov Nah dude you don't get it. Out of 10 thousand abortions only 3 are due to rape. What are the rest of the abortions for then?

@Jake the Exile contraception

Yeah I agree with the heartbeat law

@Polekov make them feel guilty for getting it and teach them that it’s morally wrong to get one for selfish reasons works pretty well at getting people to stop doing bad stuff.

i seriously can't see how controlling abortions is controlling whamen's bodies

@Little Boots yeah because guilting people works lmao

Its not

@Polekov it works pretty well when dealing with murder.

I fucking hate the argument that abortion is about controlling womens bodies

@Little Boots no it doesnt

there are a fuckton of murders that happen in the world

IKR

even though murder is seen as forbidden in literally every society

even the most primitive societies

it kinda is about controlling the wammen

it hinges on wheather or not the fetus is a person and therefor has nothing to fucking do with women or their probably 2/10 bodies

how marxist you have to be to think about such a thing in power dynamics terms lol

it's controlling women's bodies because it's literally inside their body

if the state is stepping in telling them what to do with their bodies

i think casual abortion is very wrong

but u cant outlaw people being immoral

@Polekov and most who do it are severely punished for doing it... almost as if everyone else has the conscious to not let a terrible deed go unpunished.

that never works

It applies to women because women are the only ones that can carry a fetus

Its not about women its about the fetus

Which only women can have

For now anyway

i mean the guy has a part in conceiving of a fetus lol

Again, by the same logic, outlawing murder is unnecessary because “it never works.”

i believe in someone's right over personal sovereignty as long as theyre not aborting someone else's body then its fine

I agree with boots argument there

Was going to say the same thing earlier

i would recommend you not to get tattoos, but i dont have the right to force you to do what i want

yep

a fetus is incapable of meaningful life until it's outside the womb

so

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who cares

The point of laws is to not prevent something, but to punish those who violate the act in the first place so when a crime is committed, proper procedures will be followed when dealing with the case.