Message from @ETBrooD
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The Soviet Union failed because of this exact problem, because you failed upwards
Being truthful was not smart, because it would get you punished. So you lied. And by lying you are a failure, because no one knows how much to produce, or how much you produced.
So incompetence got rewarded
well also they had a shitload of management positions that did literally nothing all day
Yep
Central planned economy is just a nightmare, you can't really do it.
Because if everyone owns something then what the fuck is the point of a manager
You get into so much problem trying to plan a nation level economy.
Well, the manager is there so someone can get punished if things go wrong
collective ownership also just
goes against human nature
So under communism your goal was to not get punished, not to produce optimally
like, if you don't own something why do you give a shit what happens to it
Two people cannot control the same item at the same time
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You get ineffective resource management, no price to rule by, corruption.
It's a shit hole.
The other issue of redistribution of wealth
Firstly
the problem of scale.
At the end of the day if you take that 99% of the money in 1% of the populations hands and divide it among the other 99% of the population the actual amount of money they get is fuck all.
I did the math on Bill Gates and it was like 1,000 dollars per person
That's minimum wage's monthly income.
collectivization doesn't necessarily = state ownership
Yeah, and also another things
That and 99% of their shit is physical property
which costs too much to be divided
And lastly
It’s a one time deal also
Money has to be concentrated to actually be worth anything.
Nothing in the socialist definition says that wealth must be redistributed to the less fortunate
If i own an office building that's worth a lot
It can go to the wealthy instead
I can do a lot with an office building
if I own one fuckin square foot of an office building
its completely useless.
and also a beurocratic nightmare to even use the building now.
what is this supposed to be analogous to
Yeah idk either, this can also happen under capitalism
Its supposed to be literal.
The building is owned by someone.
You redistribute the wealth of that person including the building.