If you have a car, and 100 people own it, try to use the car.

I think you're misunderstanding the meaning of socialism

there are cooperative businesses with literally millions of employees

that's a lot more than 3 or 4

Socialism is supposed to plug all the holes basically so no one has to suffer, that's the theory at least

It's not supposed to make everyone equal

So do they pay a fee when they join the company to buy part of it

How the fuck does everyone owning everything in the entire company work
Someone bought the equipment.

someone handles the money and signs paychecks

It doesn't need to be owned by everyone, how often do I have to explain that

Socialism doesn't say anything about equality

Then who is the 'collective'

yeah usually the owners vote on the managerial staff

The goal of socialism is to establish communism

a system in which everyone is equal

and delegate managerial duties to them

not necessarily

No, not everyone is equal under communism

you're speaking of marxism specifically

In a system with no property, no government, and no money

From each according to their ability to each according to their needs - that's not a matter of equality, nothing in there says that

Socialism and Communism sound like Hinduism but lame and no market economy.

well socialism doesn't mean there can't be a market economy

I bet if you asked Marx right now, he'd probably scoff at the idea of equality

depending on how it's defined at least

"From each according to their ability to each according to their needs" is advocating for equality of outcome dude

No it isn't

Not really

the relationship between marx and egalitarianism is a complicated one

If one produces more, and the other needs more, the extra the one produced goes to the other

it makes no mention of any exchange

it just goes.

It’s more the anarchists that are strictly egalitarian.

No, it's says Each according to their ability.

FROM each

>From each according to their ability
But also
>To each according to their needs

Your needs determine what you gain, you're not supposed to get more than you need

yeah

Everyone has what they *need*

and nothing more.

No, that's wrong