Message from @Jym

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2019-07-24 21:02:32 UTC  

@Hiddenhope yeah the GE people must be remain/labour shills

2019-07-24 21:02:53 UTC  

we'd get a liblab coalition, a second "referendum" and no brexit

2019-07-25 00:08:33 UTC  

>tfw Three Arrows says "The Rise of the Third Reich" <:hypersmugon:544638648721604608>

2019-07-25 00:11:09 UTC  

Three Arrows is so stupid I often wonder if he has to concentrate to breathe.....

2019-07-25 00:11:38 UTC  

Hmm, i find all his videos quite... useless for lack of a better word.

2019-07-25 00:14:31 UTC  

It was 25 minutes of historical facts of how concentration camps were treated during the '20s, the mentality of the Nazis, etc. All that leading to the final 5 minutes, which is a slippery slope argument, of how these ICE detention centers could become the next concentration camp for illegal immigrants.

2019-07-25 00:18:13 UTC  

I just liked the way he said 'rise' in a German accent.

2019-07-25 00:18:21 UTC  

He literally uses the analogy of a bully mocking a kid in the first day of the school, and in the final day the bully punches the kid.

2019-07-25 00:19:29 UTC  

Why hadn't that kid been doing a self-defense montage the entire school year to prevent this? Seems unlikely.

2019-07-25 00:20:01 UTC  

Or any other millions of things that could have happned in between.

2019-07-25 00:20:25 UTC  

For all we know the kid could have turned a shooter midsummer.

2019-07-25 00:21:42 UTC  

Don't come to school tomorrow if you live in the NW

2019-07-25 00:21:56 UTC  

I was always so nice to you.

2019-07-25 00:22:07 UTC  

I guess it paid off.

2019-07-25 00:23:15 UTC  

Now watch something really happens. 👀

2019-07-25 00:27:21 UTC  

A historical account of how Hitler established camps to hold all the Jews trying to sneak into Germany.........

2019-07-25 00:28:11 UTC  

No, according to Three Arrows, and i believe him in this, this was pre-nazi party during the 20's.

2019-07-25 00:28:40 UTC  

Apparently the first thing started when the Jews escaped Russia.

2019-07-25 00:31:47 UTC  

"according to Three Arrows.........."

2019-07-25 00:32:28 UTC  

C'mon, I think his stuffs are at least good when it comes to historical events.

2019-07-25 00:35:05 UTC  

I don't. I remember him doing a vid where he claimed the motivation for Barbarosa was to kill the Jews. Which is completely inaccurate. Yes the Nazis wanted to kill the Jews but they were also running out of oil and food. While genocide was on the menue in Gruppenplan Ost the primary strategic goals were the wheat fields in Ukraine and the oil fields in Bakut. By and large (I have not watched all his videos) his take on history seems to mirror Soviet propaganda more than any real scholarship.

2019-07-25 00:36:01 UTC  

Yeah, i remember that video.

2019-07-25 00:44:15 UTC  

I am also yet to watch all his videos, but most of his Nazis stuffs are tailored around the notion that the Nazi ideology is bad. Everything and anything they did has something to do with their utter hatred towards the jews, it has nothing to do with any other factors.

2019-07-25 00:44:33 UTC  

And I especially remember his video criticism of JBP.

2019-07-25 00:45:59 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/598762957257703438/603749750248046608/20190724_235419.jpg

2019-07-25 00:46:54 UTC  

Criticizing JBP's view that the Nazis had some very irrational hatred toward the jews, it was a very long video concluding on, Yes the nazis hated the jews but they were entirely rational, despite some crazy shits the nazis did that looked and seemed entirely irrational.

2019-07-25 00:46:56 UTC  

i don't think they were nearby

2019-07-25 00:48:07 UTC  

Well the Nazi ideology *was* bad. The study of the Genocide (or democide in Russia's case) is clouded by competing narratives. There was a narrative of Judeo-Bolshevism which you've likely heard parroted by alt-right commenters. The Russian narrative mirrors it in which there is communism and fascism and all that is not communism is fascism. You will hear this parroted by communist commenters. Neither of these are true.

2019-07-25 00:50:07 UTC  

What you have instead is a place where all government and civil society was crushed. Anything in the Moltov/ Ribbentrop division was not just conquered but conquered *several times* so nothing like civilization could remain there. Without civilization murderers like Hitler and Stalin had free reign to do whatever they desired.

2019-07-25 00:54:54 UTC  

Yes, hard to see how the current situation in the US detention centers will result in something like concentration camps, so many things we had in Europe during the last century are not here. His arguement is 100% classic slippery slope backed by a view that the current US administration is fascist.

2019-07-25 01:03:47 UTC  

The closest analogue to it in the US would actually be FDR who did inter citizens based on ethnicity.......

2019-07-25 01:06:01 UTC  

Yes, putting away him being a Democrat and Lefty super star, even FDR stopped at that, no genocide was committed in FDR japanese camps, and compensations were paid in later days. This is a classic case of how not every camp ends up in mass deaths.

2019-07-25 01:06:42 UTC  

It was a horrible thing to happen, yes, but it didn't go further from that.

2019-07-25 01:16:26 UTC  

Ok but it supports the Bloodlands hypothesis. FDR was as close to fascism as my country ever came. Not just camps but the National Socialist economic model was one where the government could mandate what industry produced. FDR did this too under the National Recovery Administration. He mandated what could be produced and when much like the Nazi economy. *But* unlike central Europe civil society and the state were not destroyed. If he had started gassing and burning *American citizens* it would have been the end of him.

2019-07-25 01:19:48 UTC  

Yes, and i agree with you. And that's why i don't see the current US going the way of Nazi Germany. You can hate or love Trump, but i don't see him or anyone in the current US politics being able to destroy the institution the US has right now. And that's why i think TA's arguement is wrong.

2019-07-25 01:21:47 UTC  

But if you're Poland? First you get invaded by the Russians and they murder all the intelligentsia, they murder the military leaders, they decapitate your culture. Then you get invaded again by the Germans and they have this doctrine of 'Judeo-Bolshevism' which means you might get out alive *if you surrender the Jews* then you get invaded by the Russians again and they want every last partisan or patriot so you can be pressed into the Soviet power block. **That** is how the killing happens.

Soviets were communist.
Anti-facist were communist.

Soviet had stalin, killed millions.
Poland had a dictator, suppressed many.

1933 Hitler was in power, took the banks, and threw them out.
Soon after, Germany was boycotted by Judea.

>War was escilating.
Why was boycotts, and war was escalating..
Because it was hurting the bankers wallets, from the centralized banking system..

Winston Churchill
> ``` The unforgivable sin of Hitler's Germany was to develop a new economic system by which the international bankers were deprived of their profits. ```

2019-07-25 06:49:25 UTC  

But....but it wasn’t **true** communism

WW2 broke out, Germany lost, banks went back in... No more war.