Message from @Lios

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2019-08-26 01:31:43 UTC  

Something by which I cannot abide.

2019-08-26 01:31:45 UTC  

BRUH

2019-08-26 01:32:04 UTC  

so it's double edged?

2019-08-26 01:32:07 UTC  

You should probably read that twice.

2019-08-26 01:32:08 UTC  

Yeah, it says it's mostly good but then implies they should also go outside

2019-08-26 01:32:11 UTC  

In both directions.

2019-08-26 01:32:17 UTC  

Generally positive, but generally negative.

2019-08-26 01:32:32 UTC  

And?

2019-08-26 01:32:39 UTC  

That's just misdirection to "hey, we should talk about this more, but more about the thing we put more words to"

2019-08-26 01:32:48 UTC  

In otherwords, nobody has a consensus

2019-08-26 01:32:51 UTC  

No agreed position

2019-08-26 01:33:24 UTC  

Basically that

2019-08-26 01:35:08 UTC  

So in otherwords, @ETBrooD , you picked a side on the generalization. When the given argument was "sometimes good, and sometimes bad" you picked one side as the argument towards the entire thing.

2019-08-26 01:35:26 UTC  

Not something I can side with.

2019-08-26 01:35:31 UTC  

You draw conclusions even though you haven't even read anything about it?

2019-08-26 01:35:54 UTC  

The very part you've shown me questions whether you read about it, or picked what you wanted to read about it.

2019-08-26 01:36:08 UTC  

I have read an entire book about the study of social media and behavioral addictions

2019-08-26 01:36:13 UTC  

I'm trying to find its name rn

2019-08-26 01:36:28 UTC  

Oh there's a fuckton out there. A lot of it fucking fantastic.

2019-08-26 01:36:40 UTC  

A lot of which I agree with, and I do think social media has been mostly an ill lately.

2019-08-26 01:36:42 UTC  

I think it's called "Irresistible" but I'm not sure

2019-08-26 01:36:51 UTC  

Could be one with a similar name

2019-08-26 01:37:12 UTC  

But I won't make that claim. I cannot know if it is an ill, and I will not generalize.

2019-08-26 01:37:22 UTC  

I get the feeling that search term will yield a lot of porn

2019-08-26 01:37:29 UTC  

Unf

2019-08-26 01:37:34 UTC  

also, food

2019-08-26 01:37:37 UTC  

and food porn

2019-08-26 01:37:50 UTC  

Hey, yeast infections are not sexy

2019-08-26 01:38:01 UTC  

I mean... to... most people. I'm sure there's someone out there.

2019-08-26 01:38:46 UTC  

Yes that's the book, got it in my bookcase

2019-08-26 01:39:51 UTC  

Irresistible goes over the changes in how addiction is perceived and studied, it gives examples of old addictions and modern addictions, and it focuses mostly on behavioral addictions, for example gaming, gambling, but also some of the less obvious ones

2019-08-26 01:40:29 UTC  

It also basically reveals why gaming companies resort to loot boxes and stuff like that these days

2019-08-26 01:40:44 UTC  

Well those just revolve around gambling.

2019-08-26 01:40:45 UTC  

Exploiting people's addictive behaviors, especially from kids

2019-08-26 01:40:55 UTC  

But also WoW is addressed

2019-08-26 01:41:10 UTC  

Comparisons of harmfulness between different drugs

2019-08-26 01:41:15 UTC  

Yeah, the subscription model by its start was a predatory thing.

2019-08-26 01:41:24 UTC  

Yeah, lots of subscription and "free to play" games rely on exploiting addictive mechanisms

2019-08-26 01:41:38 UTC  

Sales of the game alone were enough to keep the game running for two decades with triple the userbase