Message from @Louis

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2019-09-09 01:21:04 UTC  

Meh moly

2019-09-09 01:21:51 UTC  

I think that you must have certain rights or you have no rights

2019-09-09 01:22:01 UTC  

For example

2019-09-09 01:22:26 UTC  

A right to a weapon means a right to self defense means a right to life.

2019-09-09 01:22:31 UTC  

rights arent rights if they can just be taken away

2019-09-09 01:22:42 UTC  
2019-09-09 01:22:53 UTC  

That would be inherent rights

2019-09-09 01:23:02 UTC  

Most rights can be taken away

2019-09-09 01:23:13 UTC  

then they arent rights

2019-09-09 01:23:17 UTC  

theyre privilages

2019-09-09 01:23:36 UTC  

a right is something that cant be taken away

2019-09-09 01:23:45 UTC  

Ever hear of civil rights? Not civil privileges.

2019-09-09 01:24:29 UTC  

the fundamental thing of civil rights is that people are created equal

2019-09-09 01:24:47 UTC  

In a day and age with slavery

2019-09-09 01:24:56 UTC  

Rights not privileges

2019-09-09 01:25:19 UTC  

slaves didnt have rights taken away

2019-09-09 01:25:21 UTC  

they gained them

2019-09-09 01:25:28 UTC  

thats different

2019-09-09 01:25:31 UTC  

Equal?

2019-09-09 01:25:41 UTC  

Was every person a slave?

2019-09-09 01:26:13 UTC  

How can you gain rights?

2019-09-09 01:26:20 UTC  

If you cannot lose them?

2019-09-09 01:27:51 UTC  

its a good question

2019-09-09 01:27:58 UTC  

i dont have the words to exactly answer that

2019-09-09 01:28:26 UTC  

i still think it is different, maybe to do with natural right vs law given rights

2019-09-09 01:28:37 UTC  

but i cant at the moment formulate the right words so you got me there

Slaves weren't considered people, thus didn't have a person's rights.

2019-09-09 01:28:59 UTC  

But they became people

2019-09-09 01:29:03 UTC  

Did they not?

2019-09-09 01:29:16 UTC  

depends if you still vote for the Dems in 2020

2019-09-09 01:29:17 UTC  

KEK

2019-09-09 01:29:28 UTC  

sorry, derailing

2019-09-09 01:30:13 UTC  

I really don;t see how a right to life could ever be conceived of as inherent. Life is not something you just get by default. You are an organism with very specific requirements... It's just not *accurate* to say you just *have* that right.

2019-09-09 01:30:47 UTC  

Then there are no rights

2019-09-09 01:30:49 UTC  

At all

2019-09-09 01:30:56 UTC  

cool

2019-09-09 01:31:05 UTC  

so we got over that hurdle

2019-09-09 01:31:08 UTC  

^^

2019-09-09 01:31:19 UTC  

think defining what a Right is would be good here

2019-09-09 01:33:39 UTC  

This is Thomas Paine type shit.