Message from @Boop / 브파 / C'thUwU
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Do you mean practically or philosophically?
If philosophy does not work in practice it is worthless
so both
The founders mean that over history people have rights that they have to have or they Rebel.
Without an effective dictatorship
I don;t care what you think your mythical founders thought, pls tell me what u think.
this lady 👌
Meh moly
I think that you must have certain rights or you have no rights
For example
A right to a weapon means a right to self defense means a right to life.
rights arent rights if they can just be taken away
@Boop / 브파 / C'thUwU not true
That would be inherent rights
Most rights can be taken away
then they arent rights
theyre privilages
a right is something that cant be taken away
Ever hear of civil rights? Not civil privileges.
In a day and age with slavery
Rights not privileges
slaves didnt have rights taken away
they gained them
thats different
Equal?
Was every person a slave?
How can you gain rights?
If you cannot lose them?
its a good question
i dont have the words to exactly answer that
i still think it is different, maybe to do with natural right vs law given rights
but i cant at the moment formulate the right words so you got me there
Slaves weren't considered people, thus didn't have a person's rights.
But they became people
Did they not?
depends if you still vote for the Dems in 2020
KEK
sorry, derailing
I really don;t see how a right to life could ever be conceived of as inherent. Life is not something you just get by default. You are an organism with very specific requirements... It's just not *accurate* to say you just *have* that right.