Message from @Louis

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2019-09-09 01:11:58 UTC  

Or be a faggot

2019-09-09 01:12:02 UTC  

One of the two

2019-09-09 01:12:34 UTC  

nah, the problem is not comiting yourself to ideas, the problem is this particular set of *soy* ideas.

2019-09-09 01:12:58 UTC  

And pray tell what is a non soy set of ideas?

2019-09-09 01:15:53 UTC  

I mean I'm mostly meming to get an angry Mutt reaction, but I do object to the idea of rights being inherent to persons. Less on the grounds of it being 'soy' and more on the grounds of it being a fallacious description of the human condition.

2019-09-09 01:18:01 UTC  

Do you mean practically or philosophically?

2019-09-09 01:18:20 UTC  

If philosophy does not work in practice it is worthless

2019-09-09 01:18:25 UTC  

so both

2019-09-09 01:19:44 UTC  

The founders mean that over history people have rights that they have to have or they Rebel.

2019-09-09 01:20:21 UTC  

Without an effective dictatorship

2019-09-09 01:20:27 UTC  

I don;t care what you think your mythical founders thought, pls tell me what u think.

2019-09-09 01:20:48 UTC  

this lady πŸ‘Œ

2019-09-09 01:21:04 UTC  

Meh moly

2019-09-09 01:21:51 UTC  

I think that you must have certain rights or you have no rights

2019-09-09 01:22:01 UTC  

For example

2019-09-09 01:22:26 UTC  

A right to a weapon means a right to self defense means a right to life.

2019-09-09 01:22:31 UTC  

rights arent rights if they can just be taken away

2019-09-09 01:22:42 UTC  
2019-09-09 01:22:53 UTC  

That would be inherent rights

2019-09-09 01:23:02 UTC  

Most rights can be taken away

2019-09-09 01:23:13 UTC  

then they arent rights

2019-09-09 01:23:17 UTC  

theyre privilages

2019-09-09 01:23:36 UTC  

a right is something that cant be taken away

2019-09-09 01:23:45 UTC  

Ever hear of civil rights? Not civil privileges.

2019-09-09 01:24:29 UTC  

the fundamental thing of civil rights is that people are created equal

2019-09-09 01:24:47 UTC  

In a day and age with slavery

2019-09-09 01:24:56 UTC  

Rights not privileges

2019-09-09 01:25:19 UTC  

slaves didnt have rights taken away

2019-09-09 01:25:21 UTC  

they gained them

2019-09-09 01:25:28 UTC  

thats different

2019-09-09 01:25:31 UTC  

Equal?

2019-09-09 01:25:41 UTC  

Was every person a slave?

2019-09-09 01:26:13 UTC  

How can you gain rights?

2019-09-09 01:26:20 UTC  

If you cannot lose them?

2019-09-09 01:27:51 UTC  

its a good question

2019-09-09 01:27:58 UTC  

i dont have the words to exactly answer that

2019-09-09 01:28:26 UTC  

i still think it is different, maybe to do with natural right vs law given rights

2019-09-09 01:28:37 UTC  

but i cant at the moment formulate the right words so you got me there

Slaves weren't considered people, thus didn't have a person's rights.

2019-09-09 01:28:59 UTC  

But they became people