Message from @Louis
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Or be a faggot
One of the two
nah, the problem is not comiting yourself to ideas, the problem is this particular set of *soy* ideas.
And pray tell what is a non soy set of ideas?
I mean I'm mostly meming to get an angry Mutt reaction, but I do object to the idea of rights being inherent to persons. Less on the grounds of it being 'soy' and more on the grounds of it being a fallacious description of the human condition.
Do you mean practically or philosophically?
If philosophy does not work in practice it is worthless
so both
The founders mean that over history people have rights that they have to have or they Rebel.
Without an effective dictatorship
I don;t care what you think your mythical founders thought, pls tell me what u think.
this lady π
Meh moly
I think that you must have certain rights or you have no rights
For example
A right to a weapon means a right to self defense means a right to life.
rights arent rights if they can just be taken away
@Boop / λΈν / C'thUwU not true
That would be inherent rights
then they arent rights
theyre privilages
a right is something that cant be taken away
Ever hear of civil rights? Not civil privileges.
the fundamental thing of civil rights is that people are created equal
In a day and age with slavery
Rights not privileges
slaves didnt have rights taken away
they gained them
thats different
Equal?
Was every person a slave?
How can you gain rights?
If you cannot lose them?
its a good question
i dont have the words to exactly answer that
i still think it is different, maybe to do with natural right vs law given rights
but i cant at the moment formulate the right words so you got me there
Slaves weren't considered people, thus didn't have a person's rights.
But they became people