Message from @Tonight at 11 - DOOM
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one of the stipulations of which is that you cant steal
because its the taking of other's liberty
no random killing o ppl for no reason is not exactly an innovative, Liberal concept...
to own things
I mean peasants often did just get sort of killed in the street for now bowing low enough.
not*
eh, not rly
das far too much of a cliche
apparently thats still the case but with wokeness
sometimes they did
but it was always seen as an outrage
at least in Chritsianland
there were fucking RIOTS over a student getting killed by police under Louis IX of France
Luois *IX*
XIIIth century
it caused international outrage
Outside of the confines of a social hierarchy, a human being knows no master; They speak as they see fit, defend themselves as they see fit, and conduct themselves as they see fit. From that state, 'Natural Rights' spring forth. You needs must be free to protect yourself and speak your mind, else you are little more than a serf.
Where the others come from is an agreed upon selection of codified Legal Rights, as determined by the precise nature of the social contract that people form together.
From that state, 'Natural Rights' spring forth.
what does that mean?
what does 'spring up' form that state?
also: what the fuck is outside of social hierarchy?
When stripped of the presence of other human beings, there is no external force to forcibly silence you or strip from your means of self-defense short of violent death at the hands of a local predator. There is no beam of magic light that smites you when you say a naughty word; No fines for killing that bobcat with a boulder.
perhaps conceptually
ok, but that is just gay abstraction
but thats a different story all together
with little to no incidence on everyday life
Everyday life now is very much removed from man's original state, you know.
and I don see how it makes your rights inherent
man's original state is nothing like the ppl who wrote that shit thought, you know?
they were Rousseauian noble savage kinds
yet so similar
that was 'in' at the time
and we pretty much know that that is bullshit
men never lived alone
ever
we're pack animals
with psychologies evolved to be like that
society is not second to human nature, they are one and the same
We are by our very natures lonely, social creatures, yes. Socializing and society are not one in the same I would argue, however. I've never seen a gorilla tax another gorilla.
the nature has changed
we still go out into the wilderness, and chase after food