Message from @Tonight at 11 - DOOM

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2019-09-09 01:37:49 UTC  

i think that with the fact people dont starve and dehydrate if they arent trying to do those things

2019-09-09 01:37:55 UTC  

is enough of a supplies Right to life

2019-09-09 01:38:20 UTC  

anything more than that would be depriving others of rights

2019-09-09 01:38:45 UTC  

when it comes to medicine, you just go in debt for it, which doesnt necessarily conflict with a right to life

2019-09-09 01:39:12 UTC  

but because self sustaining needs are supplied for to maintain Life, you now have to deal with Liberty

2019-09-09 01:39:27 UTC  

thus defined a right to life is something fucking peasants had, at least formally, in the middle ages

2019-09-09 01:39:27 UTC  

lol

2019-09-09 01:39:38 UTC  

one of the stipulations of which is that you cant steal

2019-09-09 01:39:56 UTC  

because its the taking of other's liberty

2019-09-09 01:39:57 UTC  

no random killing o ppl for no reason is not exactly an innovative, Liberal concept...

2019-09-09 01:39:59 UTC  

to own things

I mean peasants often did just get sort of killed in the street for now bowing low enough.

2019-09-09 01:40:31 UTC  

eh, not rly

2019-09-09 01:40:37 UTC  

das far too much of a cliche

2019-09-09 01:40:39 UTC  

apparently thats still the case but with wokeness

2019-09-09 01:40:45 UTC  

sometimes they did

2019-09-09 01:40:53 UTC  

but it was always seen as an outrage

2019-09-09 01:41:03 UTC  

at least in Chritsianland

2019-09-09 01:41:49 UTC  

there were fucking RIOTS over a student getting killed by police under Louis IX of France

2019-09-09 01:41:55 UTC  

Luois *IX*

2019-09-09 01:42:17 UTC  

XIIIth century

2019-09-09 01:42:43 UTC  

it caused international outrage

Outside of the confines of a social hierarchy, a human being knows no master; They speak as they see fit, defend themselves as they see fit, and conduct themselves as they see fit. From that state, 'Natural Rights' spring forth. You needs must be free to protect yourself and speak your mind, else you are little more than a serf.

Where the others come from is an agreed upon selection of codified Legal Rights, as determined by the precise nature of the social contract that people form together.

2019-09-09 01:44:47 UTC  

From that state, 'Natural Rights' spring forth.
what does that mean?

2019-09-09 01:45:00 UTC  

what does 'spring up' form that state?

2019-09-09 01:45:16 UTC  

also: what the fuck is outside of social hierarchy?

2019-09-09 01:45:19 UTC  

like actually?

When stripped of the presence of other human beings, there is no external force to forcibly silence you or strip from your means of self-defense short of violent death at the hands of a local predator. There is no beam of magic light that smites you when you say a naughty word; No fines for killing that bobcat with a boulder.

2019-09-09 01:46:50 UTC  

perhaps conceptually

2019-09-09 01:46:54 UTC  

ok, but that is just gay abstraction

2019-09-09 01:46:58 UTC  

but thats a different story all together

2019-09-09 01:47:12 UTC  

with little to no incidence on everyday life

Everyday life now is very much removed from man's original state, you know.

2019-09-09 01:47:42 UTC  

and I don see how it makes your rights inherent

2019-09-09 01:48:03 UTC  

man's original state is nothing like the ppl who wrote that shit thought, you know?

2019-09-09 01:48:15 UTC  

they were Rousseauian noble savage kinds

2019-09-09 01:48:21 UTC  

yet so similar

2019-09-09 01:48:21 UTC  

that was 'in' at the time

2019-09-09 01:48:36 UTC  

and we pretty much know that that is bullshit

2019-09-09 01:48:51 UTC  

men never lived alone