Are you a racist because you see race?

You know what I see in that photo?

The black man is always trying to differentiate himself from the white man by wearing a funky ass suit.

That's just a common behavior I see among blacks, which is a byproduct of their non-conformity.

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Am I racist?

I asked Joker, not you

C'mon, I'm trying to throw some humor into it.

Ok sry <:sargonfingerguns:568463117856669696>

I'm angry that this Joker guy is trying to paint me as a racist because he can't distinguish between seeing race and being a racist

So I'm trying to prove to him that noticing race is not racist

It's a subtle truth I laid out that examples their non-conformity.

the difficulty in communication seems to be what an individual is meaning to convey when they say they do or don't *see* something. I communicate it in a willingness to convey I don't put contextual wieght on it, you communicate it to convey whether or not its physically observed.

Anyway, you two have fun.

Nice dodging the question Joker

neither definition is indididually correct or incorrect, we seem to have simply gone over the other's head

It's always great when you can accuse others of something dishonestly

But when that same argument gets turned on you

You just avoid it

I was identifying where I was wrong in my judgement

You were wrong about me being a racist

yes

Thank you

still, your repetitive reference to things being safe or unsafe or weak didn't help the issue

I don't know how to solve that issue when it concerns the matter of race and racism, because it's so emotionally and culturally and politically loaded in this day

I can't present nuanced arguments anymore without being accused of racism by someone

This didn't use to be the case

well its just needlessly combative laguage. when concerning the establishment of understanding, 'productive' and 'unproductive' are much clearer

though in the very same respect, the term "progressive" is just as unfortunately innappropriate a term for this

I guess maybe

I could be considered progressive in a few ways, too, despite overall being more conservative

its like how I can't say America needs "a party of the people" or a "people's party" if I wish to refer to a party that can accurately represent the democratic mandate of the citizenry

Well about that, I actually think democracy is overrated, when just looking at the justice system for example which is clearly undemocratic, and we're hardly ever questioning it except in specific cases

gotta ask, since again, mixed pol is hard to tell who's from where, referring to UK or US justice system?

Well I was talking more about in general in western countries

I understand legislation is voted for, not just decided by an authority, but the voting process is not exactly a good representation of a truly democratic system. And who knows maybe that's a good thing, I don't know.

Efficiency and "common sense" often trumps democracy, even in a democratic setting

And then there's also the issue that the democratic systems that are in place are not actually truly democratic. Which again, may be a good thing.

I believe democracy should be resorted to only when absolutely neccessary. I believe it's being overused, and thus abused.

Because after all, democracy is, in its very essence, mob rule. It must be tempered, and we do that by often simply doing.... nothing at all. No authority whatsoever. Just let things go.

well such is why the US isn't a direct democracy