Is one of them white, and one is black? Is that correct?

correct

So you see race, ok

How does that prove that you're a racist?

Are you a racist because you see those differences?

so the difficulty arises from the individual's meaning behind the assertion os *seeing* race,

Tell me if this makes you racist

The fact that you're noticing this

which frankly is the onus of the individudal making the assertion

You know there's a study showing all races experience adrenaline rush/fight or flight responses when they see a member of another race? I believe this was aired on Through the Wormhole with Morgan Freeman, if my memory serves me just.

You clearly see race

Are you a racist because you see race?

You know what I see in that photo?

The black man is always trying to differentiate himself from the white man by wearing a funky ass suit.

That's just a common behavior I see among blacks, which is a byproduct of their non-conformity.

🤦

Am I racist?

I asked Joker, not you

C'mon, I'm trying to throw some humor into it.

Ok sry <:sargonfingerguns:568463117856669696>

I'm angry that this Joker guy is trying to paint me as a racist because he can't distinguish between seeing race and being a racist

So I'm trying to prove to him that noticing race is not racist

It's a subtle truth I laid out that examples their non-conformity.

the difficulty in communication seems to be what an individual is meaning to convey when they say they do or don't *see* something. I communicate it in a willingness to convey I don't put contextual wieght on it, you communicate it to convey whether or not its physically observed.

Anyway, you two have fun.

Nice dodging the question Joker

neither definition is indididually correct or incorrect, we seem to have simply gone over the other's head

It's always great when you can accuse others of something dishonestly

But when that same argument gets turned on you

You just avoid it

I was identifying where I was wrong in my judgement

You were wrong about me being a racist

yes

Thank you

still, your repetitive reference to things being safe or unsafe or weak didn't help the issue

I don't know how to solve that issue when it concerns the matter of race and racism, because it's so emotionally and culturally and politically loaded in this day

I can't present nuanced arguments anymore without being accused of racism by someone

This didn't use to be the case

well its just needlessly combative laguage. when concerning the establishment of understanding, 'productive' and 'unproductive' are much clearer

though in the very same respect, the term "progressive" is just as unfortunately innappropriate a term for this

I guess maybe