Message from @Weez

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2019-09-10 10:33:58 UTC  

I’ll bend it, use it, abuse it to suit my needs.

2019-09-10 10:34:27 UTC  

I mean, I understand the expedient desire to wipe out those who wish to superimpose an ideology upon you - I get that. But, that conclusion may lead to a subversion of your intent, as evinced by history. The best way is to simply dissolve the means by which they'd seek to do so and remain armed, organized with your like-minded brethren.

2019-09-10 10:34:38 UTC  

Ah, so you're just a pirate floating on by.

2019-09-10 10:34:40 UTC  

Lol.

2019-09-10 10:35:10 UTC  

Moral nihilism is what I'd call it.

2019-09-10 10:35:21 UTC  

The dark side of objectivism.

2019-09-10 10:35:42 UTC  

@ETBrooD, some of it is by design, others by merely becoming a subject of the designers influence or mere ignorance, going back to the subject of revisionism.

2019-09-10 10:36:15 UTC  

Oh yeah, like Coach Redpill

2019-09-10 10:36:36 UTC  

I am ideologically attached to markets because trading with other people is the best way for me to live as a human.

2019-09-10 10:36:54 UTC  

@Weez, you don't believe China has moved far enough, yet?

2019-09-10 10:37:07 UTC  

Cooperation, @jacovich stabs.

2019-09-10 10:37:26 UTC  

Not sure how one can be *ideologically* attached to markets

2019-09-10 10:38:04 UTC  

Means I see them as imperative.

2019-09-10 10:38:10 UTC  

Moved? In what way? @Jeremy

2019-09-10 10:38:18 UTC  

Correct, @jacovich stabs, so you have fundamental questions of whether it is the case that government is merely to recognize ones rights, rather than be the grantor of said rights.

2019-09-10 10:38:48 UTC  

Man becomes God.

2019-09-10 10:38:57 UTC  

The government will de facto always become the grantor of rights..

2019-09-10 10:39:12 UTC  

Cooperation is great but it's not a way of life. People have personal missions too and trade is offering value for value. It's easy and effective.

2019-09-10 10:39:56 UTC  

The role of government is to secure the rights of man. It cannot "grant" them, that's just incoherent.

2019-09-10 10:39:56 UTC  

Doing gods work for you Poles. @Tonight at 11 - DOOM

2019-09-10 10:42:35 UTC  

@Weez, as in you do not believe the PRC has went far enough along the lines of fascism? I find it difficult to recognize them as Communists, as this point, but I'll still declare them as such in my rants. Is the PRC the first instance of observing Fascism arise from Communism, or was it all really the same anyway, ultimately pursuing the elimination of self-organization and spontaneous order by design?

2019-09-10 10:42:58 UTC  

"if a democracy cannot change its mind, it ceases to be a democracy"
W T F ?
Can someone explain the logical progression behind this claim? I can't figure it out

2019-09-10 10:43:39 UTC  

That's because you've been manipulated by internet radicals @ETBrooD

2019-09-10 10:44:00 UTC  

@jacovich stabs, I also see them as an imperative, as they're required to remain free to ensure efficient allocation of scarce resources. Only a free-market can best decide, while remaining what I see as consistent with my moral values.

2019-09-10 10:44:56 UTC  

My God this is pertinacious mumbling of idealistic know it alls...

2019-09-10 10:44:57 UTC  

Free markets must be regulated to prevent monopolistic practices

2019-09-10 10:45:06 UTC  

And here comes Eccles

2019-09-10 10:45:11 UTC  

Damn straight

2019-09-10 10:45:12 UTC  

To make it even worse

2019-09-10 10:45:23 UTC  

Where did the DUCC go?

2019-09-10 10:45:38 UTC  

He lives on, in your ❤ @Xaverius

2019-09-10 10:45:43 UTC  

aw

2019-09-10 10:45:59 UTC  

Guardian is cancer

2019-09-10 10:46:06 UTC  

Agreed, they’re a socialist nation - as it says in their constitution. I think the path China is on is fine, it’s proven to work. They’re soon to be the largest economy in the world, they have control over their population, they’re expanding their influence, they’re able to deal with ‘problem’ groups, etc. I don’t believe China is fascist yet though. @Jeremy

2019-09-10 10:47:08 UTC  

China isn't fascist. *boggle*

2019-09-10 10:47:45 UTC  

What China is, is winning. All else is kinda senseless rambling tbh

2019-09-10 10:48:27 UTC  

@Jeremy Hmm, I think that's looking at it from too "top-down" a view. Or perhaps too broad a view, at least for the purpose of explaining one's personal affinity for markets.
It's true, a free market is best for society but that's because it's good for individuals. Because the trader relationship between even two people is fundamentally benevolent.

2019-09-10 10:49:47 UTC  

free market is democracy via dollar

2019-09-10 10:50:51 UTC  

They can be winning -and- be fascist

2019-09-10 10:50:52 UTC  

- The imperialistic forces of the US capitalists must eventually fall before the righteousness of the people's revolution! Materialist History *dictates* we must win!
- First Secretary, the Americans are, like, 14 times richer then us...
- Nonsense Sergey, our people are rich in socialist fervor and anti-reactionary spirit!

This is you saying China is done for.