Perversion on a scale I've never before seen.

It's being used to describe authoritarian ideas, as well as degeneracy and even murder

Weez, I believe you possess a misunderstanding of fascism, if you truly mean that.

The people who do this, I often wonder if they know what they're doing, or if they're ideologically inept

I’m just shitposting, don’t worry

Why would you wish to regulate out free-market processes and artificially inflate the value of goods and services, while seizing the gears of innovation? That's an odd desire, if you're in a time of need, given it's contrary to serving your needs.

We swing left to right, liberal to authoritarianism

Never far enough for fascism, sadly

>sadly

I think that because liberalism was grounded in theological ethics it was ultimately doomed from the start. Freedom can't be grounded in the arbitrary.
So on the one hand you had atheism come out of the age of reason and you also had a political system of freedom but it was founded on God. The two were bound to be at odds.

The markets are a tool to be used, I’m not ideologically attached to them, like my life depended on it; as most people here are.

I’ll bend it, use it, abuse it to suit my needs.

I mean, I understand the expedient desire to wipe out those who wish to superimpose an ideology upon you - I get that. But, that conclusion may lead to a subversion of your intent, as evinced by history. The best way is to simply dissolve the means by which they'd seek to do so and remain armed, organized with your like-minded brethren.

Ah, so you're just a pirate floating on by.

Lol.

Moral nihilism is what I'd call it.

The dark side of objectivism.

@ETBrooD, some of it is by design, others by merely becoming a subject of the designers influence or mere ignorance, going back to the subject of revisionism.

Oh yeah, like Coach Redpill

I am ideologically attached to markets because trading with other people is the best way for me to live as a human.

@Weez, you don't believe China has moved far enough, yet?

Cooperation, @jacovich stabs.

Not sure how one can be *ideologically* attached to markets

Means I see them as imperative.

Moved? In what way? @Jeremy

Correct, @jacovich stabs, so you have fundamental questions of whether it is the case that government is merely to recognize ones rights, rather than be the grantor of said rights.

Man becomes God.

The government will de facto always become the grantor of rights..

Cooperation is great but it's not a way of life. People have personal missions too and trade is offering value for value. It's easy and effective.

Britain could save the West!
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/sep/10/nativist-populism-britain-parliament-brexit-europeans

The role of government is to secure the rights of man. It cannot "grant" them, that's just incoherent.

Doing gods work for you Poles. @Tonight at 11 - DOOM

@Weez, as in you do not believe the PRC has went far enough along the lines of fascism? I find it difficult to recognize them as Communists, as this point, but I'll still declare them as such in my rants. Is the PRC the first instance of observing Fascism arise from Communism, or was it all really the same anyway, ultimately pursuing the elimination of self-organization and spontaneous order by design?

"if a democracy cannot change its mind, it ceases to be a democracy"
W T F ?
Can someone explain the logical progression behind this claim? I can't figure it out

That's because you've been manipulated by internet radicals @ETBrooD

@jacovich stabs, I also see them as an imperative, as they're required to remain free to ensure efficient allocation of scarce resources. Only a free-market can best decide, while remaining what I see as consistent with my moral values.

My God this is pertinacious mumbling of idealistic know it alls...

Free markets must be regulated to prevent monopolistic practices

And here comes Eccles

Damn straight

To make it even worse