Message from Tonight at 11 - DOOM in Athens #piraeus_politics_news

2019-09-10 11:16:21 UTC  


2019-09-10 11:16:33 UTC  

it wouldn't decentralize an already centralized system thou

2019-09-10 11:16:59 UTC  

I don't think what you're suggesting will fix it

2019-09-10 11:17:08 UTC  

Do the math.

2019-09-10 11:18:23 UTC  

It's more difficult to pump money into 435 district-level, 2-year terms, than it is 100 6-year termed seats.

2019-09-10 11:19:36 UTC  

Imagine the kind of money that'd be required.

2019-09-10 11:19:45 UTC  

money is not the issue

2019-09-10 11:19:49 UTC  

this is dumb

2019-09-10 11:20:02 UTC  

They'll do it comfortably by moving their focus to the local party structures, who will control those district level appointments

2019-09-10 11:20:04 UTC  

alphabet has infinite money

2019-09-10 11:20:41 UTC  

I'm sorry, but I broadly agree with Doom - you're moving the problem, not solving it

2019-09-10 11:21:19 UTC  

I think you'd be better off moving control of more "things" from federal to state level

2019-09-10 11:21:21 UTC  

No, local and small business interests would control the appointments made by the district, just as they had for centuries before the amendment was ratified.

2019-09-10 11:21:29 UTC  

I mean I know I like to meme this a lot, but you know what's a quasi-incorruptible institution of power? A hereditary Monarch. If financial corruption is your problem, here's *a* solution 4 u... Not that that would ever fly in Muttica.

2019-09-10 11:22:10 UTC  

What makes you think the party system will just change the plan on the ground to take control of those appointments away from the district?

2019-09-10 11:22:17 UTC  

This happens in the UK, btw

2019-09-10 11:22:21 UTC  

So it's not like it won't

2019-09-10 11:24:08 UTC  

They already do try and do this, but it's still the local and well-established families and small business owners who dictate the election campaigns of who makes the ticket for the House.

2019-09-10 11:25:21 UTC  

As it should be, by the way.

2019-09-10 11:25:40 UTC  

But again: this would not solve your issues even if it did work like you say. It'd just prevent them from getting worse or, more realistically, make the process of them becoming worse slower.

2019-09-10 11:25:46 UTC  

The senate is not the house

2019-09-10 11:25:51 UTC  

they don propose laws

2019-09-10 11:25:54 UTC  

they don change laws

2019-09-10 11:25:57 UTC  

As those are the interests that should be represented at the district-level, and those interests should be preserved moving forward into the Senate, but as it stands now, that's not the case.

2019-09-10 11:26:01 UTC  

they just need to agree to laws

2019-09-10 11:27:04 UTC  

They simply don't have the tools to reverse past changes

2019-09-10 11:27:11 UTC  

s'not their Jeb

2019-09-10 11:27:25 UTC  

Much of those past changes can quickly be declared as unconstitutional.

2019-09-10 11:27:33 UTC  

well ok

2019-09-10 11:27:41 UTC  

There is nothing stopping political parties taking control of those districts- the only reason they don't at the moment is they have no need to

2019-09-10 11:27:43 UTC  

if we have a magic wand we can do a lot

2019-09-10 11:27:43 UTC  

I agree

2019-09-10 11:28:11 UTC  

You just need an independent Judiciary, no longer politicized by a Senate that's no longer subject to populism.

2019-09-10 11:28:22 UTC  

but to declare something unconstitutional you need to stack the court with your ppl

2019-09-10 11:28:24 UTC  

that takes time

2019-09-10 11:28:30 UTC  

do you have a plan to do that?

2019-09-10 11:28:51 UTC  

or are you just saying "we just need to move this mountain 7 km that way!"?

2019-09-10 11:29:13 UTC  

Yes, the Senate provides for the function of approving Judicial appointees.

2019-09-10 11:29:20 UTC  


2019-09-10 11:29:26 UTC  

not appointment

2019-09-10 11:30:00 UTC  

That's correct.