Message from @Kamaitachi

Discord ID: 620953920206012426


2019-09-10 11:30:50 UTC  

you want to change the status quo

2019-09-10 11:31:09 UTC  

you won't do this by changing the senate (unless you change their prerogatives too)

2019-09-10 11:34:04 UTC  

Well, given they rely on popular elections, they are subject to whatever changes are wished upon that status quo, which is why we have seen their powers shift our country toward directions we don't desire. They have no buffer providing for sovereignty, to act independent of popular opinions which are nearly always flawed and subject to long-term consequences that far out-weigh their immediate gains, and as a result, no longer does the Judiciary.

2019-09-10 11:35:28 UTC  

Sure, but this does not discredit what I said : they wouldn't have the power to change anything *back*. Just to slow down further change.

2019-09-10 11:35:50 UTC  

That was the whole purpose of making them popularly elective over appointive, to subject them to those forces that'd change the status quo, and so far, that's amounted to expansionism and perpetual violations of the values this nation is founded upon.

2019-09-10 11:40:39 UTC  

It does to some extent; they can't propose new legislation, but they can reject it, and by nature of their character change would, over time, ensure we end up with a Judiciary stacked with apolitical and constitutionalist judges, to the extent of textualism, which would guarantee a nearly complete dismantling of the federal government, with much of the previous legislation you're referencing as unalterable becoming subject to judicial review. Also, you're forgetting much of the federal bureaucracy operates on renewal, and thus they're not permanent.

2019-09-10 11:41:31 UTC  

"nature of their character change would, over time, ensure we end up with a Judiciary stacked with apolitical and constitutionalist judges"

2019-09-10 11:41:32 UTC  

no

2019-09-10 11:41:37 UTC  

They can also reject appropriations.

2019-09-10 11:41:55 UTC  

it would just mean the less radical anti-constitutionalists would get accepted

2019-09-10 11:42:12 UTC  

they still don choose the candidates

2019-09-10 11:42:53 UTC  

"Also, you're forgetting much of the federal bureaucracy operates on renewal, and thus they're not permanent."
I'm not forgetting that, I didn't know. Not a Mutt.

2019-09-10 11:43:02 UTC  

That's correct.

2019-09-10 11:47:15 UTC  

Now, going back to the neglecting of economic development interests among many districts, including those of liberal support, this would largely cease to continue, meaning you address some of the most fundamental reasons why people have continued to chart the path of populism among both the left and right. So, I don't see it as an immediate solution, but one that tempers our ailments moving forward, @Tonight at 11 - DOOM. Over all, it's a long-term solution toward shifting the balance of power over to the many, neglected districts across the U.S., out of the hands of the few in a position of economic scale. The long-term outcome of uniformed growth across this country is a counter to current policy motives. Think about how that would change us moving forward.

2019-09-10 12:00:36 UTC  

And, @Eccles, I'm not sure what you mean by claiming the party system would take control of appointments away from the district. I see this as a way to change the character of the parties, as party leadership is found in the Senate, something you inherently change by way of this alteration.

2019-09-10 12:02:42 UTC  

I don't believe that at all

2019-09-10 12:02:53 UTC  

Political parties are centrally controlled and indentured to their vested interests

2019-09-10 12:03:02 UTC  

This isn't going to change unless you switch to PR

2019-09-10 12:07:53 UTC  

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-49582852

I had to share this news i found with you all.

2019-09-10 12:09:01 UTC  

Jesus bbc

2019-09-10 12:09:11 UTC  

Racial lens much

2019-09-10 12:11:38 UTC  

If anything, they were too blind on religion...

2019-09-10 12:11:46 UTC  

maybe if the CIA had hired more Muslim extremists they'd know what the Muslim extremists were going to do <:BIGBRAIN:501101491428392991>

2019-09-10 12:12:08 UTC  

@Tonight at 11 - DOOM nah it was definitly too white

2019-09-10 12:12:48 UTC  

Figure this one out for me: US embassies have LGBT attaches, but no religious expert attaches even thou religion is *clearly* more prominent a political force in the world then LGBT shit.

2019-09-10 12:13:29 UTC  

Fucking country of Hindus ruled over by Swedes... Your elite hates religion so much, it doesn't remember it exists...

2019-09-10 12:14:22 UTC  

So, is that article suggesting that CIA needed more brown people in it because brown people think like terrorists?

2019-09-10 12:14:52 UTC  

Racial identiterianism is cancer upon the western world.

2019-09-10 12:15:26 UTC  

Honestly someone should make some weird serum that makes everyone white...

So finally... The world is at peace *Second degree 9000*

2019-09-10 12:15:26 UTC  

It's not only cancer. It's even cancer from an ethno-nat perspective...

2019-09-10 12:15:31 UTC  

By the way, @Tonight at 11 - DOOM, they were appointed by the respective States' legislature, meaning you'd wipe the Democrats out of the Senate. 😉 You initially asked whether I'd have House members from New York selecting the Senators of fly-over country, but they'd have no say.

2019-09-10 12:15:48 UTC  

I didn't

2019-09-10 12:15:52 UTC  

Eccles did

2019-09-10 12:16:30 UTC  

My apologies, @Tonight at 11 - DOOM; that's for you, @Eccles.

2019-09-10 12:16:59 UTC  

And yes, identitarianism is quite the cancer, @Jun.

2019-09-10 12:17:23 UTC  

Imagine being more ideologically attached to your unrelated neighbor of similar skin colour to you, then to your 'mixed-race' kid AND thinking that makes sense from a ethno-nationalist perspective. It's literally retarded.

2019-09-10 12:17:29 UTC  

I'll second your idea of a serum.

2019-09-10 12:17:33 UTC  

👏

2019-09-10 12:17:46 UTC  

Pump it into the water supplies.

2019-09-10 12:17:50 UTC  

Are we the Roman Empire at its peak?

2019-09-10 12:17:56 UTC  

And about to collapse?