Message from @Death in June

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2019-08-26 11:56:11 UTC  

bruh, that linear history though

2019-08-26 11:56:32 UTC  

History is linear by definition

2019-08-26 11:56:51 UTC  

*multiple people are typing* 😂

2019-08-26 11:56:58 UTC  

idk

2019-08-26 11:57:04 UTC  

dont think about stuff like that very often

2019-08-26 11:58:07 UTC  

People argue history is cyclical because there are many elements of human society and behaviour that are

2019-08-26 11:58:15 UTC  

But I don't think history itself is cyclical

2019-08-26 11:58:47 UTC  

cyclical just means that it tends to move in patterns

2019-08-26 11:59:00 UTC  
2019-08-26 11:59:14 UTC  

Predictable, repeatable patterns is what it implies, June

2019-08-26 11:59:18 UTC  

Noone that says that thinks it's literally repeating itself

2019-08-26 11:59:54 UTC  

Nor am I arguing that

2019-08-26 12:00:08 UTC  

But they do predict all kinds of nonsense based on the notion that "history repeats itself"

2019-08-26 12:00:28 UTC  

a concept rooted in a cyclical notion of history would be asabiyyah for example https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asabiyyah#Overview

2019-08-26 12:00:30 UTC  

I would imagine this is what the compass test AA came up with was testing

2019-08-26 12:04:40 UTC  

similar to the ideas of people like oswald spengler

2019-08-26 12:05:11 UTC  

who posited that civilizations are like superorganisms that go through certain phases of life just as organisms do

2019-08-26 12:06:22 UTC  

I've seen many such ideas before and had similar myself without prior prompting

2019-08-26 12:06:38 UTC  

They don't have much in the way of predictive power though

2019-08-26 12:10:21 UTC  

i dunno

2019-08-26 12:10:42 UTC  

spengler seemed to think that the west would enter into a phase of pre-death emergency in the 21st century

2019-08-26 12:10:49 UTC  

based off of his theories

2019-08-26 12:11:00 UTC  

Society and Civilisation isn't something that can be modelled easily, especially since it isn't a tangible thing in itself - it is the sum totality of all the other actors that are part of it

2019-08-26 12:11:13 UTC  

Everyone predicts catastrophe, it's what sells copies

2019-08-26 12:13:02 UTC  

the timing seems quite prescient, at least, and was rooted in patterns observed in historical civilizations

2019-08-26 12:15:43 UTC  

The only thing that could have been predicted with would make any sense is the set of issues were's now having as a result of global capitalism - the end game of capitalism and it's inevitable collapse

2019-08-26 12:15:47 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/613767975614283832/615519761517772810/b72a47e27bf6ec3d238ab638d01fc162.png

2019-08-26 12:16:46 UTC  

that is part of his model, in the sense that the 19th-21st centuries represented the ascendance of money politics, plutocracy, mirroring for example the two centuries preceding caesar in rome

2019-08-26 12:18:22 UTC  

So all we need now is someone to conquer Mars and his protege to become the emperor of mankind <:thinkgon:560211224923734026>

2019-08-26 12:20:48 UTC  

mars the red planet is already secretly ruled by cyborg stalin, the red tsar of space, silly goose

2019-08-26 12:21:41 UTC  

the soviet union didn't actually fight in ww2, their population losses came from soviet mars colonists

2019-08-26 12:23:09 UTC  

ye

2019-08-26 12:23:14 UTC  

smh basic histry

2019-08-26 12:23:24 UTC  

this is also why hitler nor his body was never actually found and why his supposed remains are actually a woman's

2019-08-26 12:23:38 UTC  

*a woman?*

2019-08-26 12:23:51 UTC  

he made a deal with the soviet union to fake a war on the eastern front in exchange for jupiter's moon, europa

2019-08-26 12:24:19 UTC  

a nice fiction

2019-08-26 12:24:32 UTC  

hehe

2019-08-26 12:24:47 UTC  

>they dont know
😂

2019-08-26 12:25:44 UTC  

first thing american mars expedition will hear is здравствуйте