Message from @yordanyordanov

Discord ID: 650020523299962932


2019-11-29 16:30:51 UTC  

I think you misunderstand what I'm saying. Belief and Truth only overlap where our ability to understand nature is loosely certain. When specific truth is revealed that conflicts with the minutae of old beliefs, the tendency is for people to defend the beliefs, rather than recognize the real value in the belief, and adapt.

We don't believe in Noah's Ark and the Flood because we are certain the world was totally covered by ocean due to rain for a time. That's not the point of that story. We believe in that story because "God" wants us to realize that we should be preppers who are good stewards of our resources such that we, our families, and our communities will survive disasters.

2019-11-29 16:36:13 UTC  

The Bible teaches us to be lunatics who prepare for a natural disaster without any evidence whatsoever, that's what Noah's arc is about

2019-11-29 16:37:24 UTC  

The lesson to be taken away is that it's good to be a lunatic who believes in words that only oneself can hear because ultimately you'll be proven right in doing so being the sole survivor and the savior of a rich animal kingdom

2019-11-29 16:38:26 UTC  

In my opinion this is one of the worst lessons that could possibly be taught

2019-11-29 16:46:24 UTC  

Ya, but ET, you could watch the Joker from a feminist perspective and equally miss the value in it.

2019-11-29 16:47:20 UTC  

The Bible is not a story that we're supposed to just enjoy, it's a guide for morals, for beliefs, for a way of life

2019-11-29 16:49:04 UTC  

I didn't say it was entertainment.

2019-11-29 16:49:19 UTC  

You compared it to the Joker movie, which is nothing but entertainment

2019-11-29 16:50:40 UTC  

Comparison is not the same as equivocation.

2019-11-29 16:51:30 UTC  

The key difference is too essential for it to be a useful comparison. The Bible is considered the word of God. Unlike Joker, which everyone knows and agrees is a man-made piece of art.

2019-11-29 16:54:15 UTC  

The point remains, you can interpret stories infinite ways. Choosing a single interpretation that is not useful for anyone and declaring that that interpretation is "correct" only serves to destroy useful belief in service to minutae.

2019-11-29 16:54:36 UTC  

Joker isn't just entertainment though.
Out of all the comic movies, it may be least so.

2019-11-29 16:55:21 UTC  

The Bible is not a story, it's the word of God. God's word can only be interpreted in one correct way, all other ways are incorrect. Or else it wouldn't be God's word.
The Joker movie is entirely up to everyone's individual interpretation, so there is no singular truth about it to be taken away.

2019-11-29 16:56:46 UTC  

If there's only one way to interpret the bible, aren't you limiting god? Even novels are deliberately written with multiple interpretations possible.

2019-11-29 16:57:02 UTC  

while fiction = story, story =/= fiction https://i.gyazo.com/cb598f2b3ca7e43e937e5f8bb6ab0f7b.png

2019-11-29 16:57:25 UTC  

It's the other way around, if there are multiple correct interpretations of the Bible, then we're presuming to be able to know God, which we can't, as the Bible itself says.

2019-11-29 16:59:09 UTC  

Definitely not useful for this channel.

2019-11-29 17:00:38 UTC  

I mean you started it, if you disagree with my rebuttal then well fine I guess. But then why would anyone's opinion on this matter be useful in this channel.

2019-11-29 17:01:12 UTC  

The channel was set up specifically to share links, we're flooding it with religion discussion.

2019-11-29 17:01:48 UTC  

If it leads to something useful then so be it. We can move the discussion to xen_debate

2019-11-29 17:09:29 UTC  

Now that should be a "benchmark" study in the "Anals" of the modern lefty greeny SJWs.
Shows you very well how far are these people prepared to go for all their believes.

2019-11-29 17:12:54 UTC  

They are after your games, too. I guess they don't find the habit particularly supportive of their lifestyle, so why not regulate it or just outright ban it if they can?

2019-11-29 17:14:13 UTC  

They are counting even those watts you use recreating in essentially what is the last free space for you left in your life. I guess Sargon might use this one to make a video or two, too.

2019-11-29 17:14:56 UTC  

That abstract (and possibly the article) was written by the scientifically ignorant. A Rise in computing power is an INCREASE in the energy efficiency of gaming. Does this person realize that in order to play games with the graphics of today in the 1990s, you would need computers the size of warehouses?

2019-11-29 17:15:15 UTC  

I think it would be fun to watch him argue for the effects his own activities have on the planet in the eyes of the lefties.

2019-11-29 17:16:57 UTC  

@Jeremy-Retard I don't think these people realize anything. They just had the audacity to create something that bears the name "journal" and started making all kinds of sh*t up in order to fill it up and here is one interesting example that intersects with the topics of interest in this server, too.

2019-11-29 17:18:21 UTC  

But ultimately I don't think these people have the brains to think of anything useful up, they are just good at virtue signaling, name calling and making one hell of a nuisance to spoil your day up.

2019-11-29 17:18:31 UTC  

"Rising computing power, improved graphics quality, higher-resolution displays, and streaming delivery have rendered computer gaming an increasingly energy-intensive activity.".... That was written by a fool who has never sat an original nintendo gameboy next to a nintendo switch and noticed vast improvements in both game, AND power efficiency.

2019-11-29 17:20:24 UTC  

But somehow managed to get his paper through the peer review process in a Springer journal.

2019-11-29 17:21:00 UTC  

Most journals are worthless for weeding out crap. There's websites dedicated to watching for science paper retractions these days.

2019-11-29 17:22:53 UTC  

It's not that I think very highly of what the modern German Academia had become, but you see what kind of crap they are already willing to publish these days while quantity is definitely over quality here.

2019-11-29 17:24:25 UTC  

I think they just needed to pump up that resume and make that grant money worth something.

2019-11-29 17:25:30 UTC  

But, hey, that research was done in California, so why are you even surprised?

2019-11-29 17:28:02 UTC  

I also think money could have been spend on researching far more important things than how to humiliate gamers, but you know, who am I-a man who can't lend a single paper in like 10 years cause he is constantly at odds with his peers-to tell these *professionals* how to distribute their grants?

2019-11-29 17:29:31 UTC  

It just makes me nervous sometimes seeing what kind of pure CRAP gets funded and published while other more pressing and, probably, more deserving proposals get thrown out of the window cause they don't *sound* nice to the people with the money.

2019-11-29 17:31:29 UTC  

Science has been turned into an industry based closer on the mainstream media than on finding the truth of nature.
"Publish or Perish" is THE RULE, not the exception, even in academia. When publishing is more important than discovery, you have defaulted to flooding the world with noise, not truth.

2019-11-29 17:31:38 UTC  

(And the agendas.)

2019-11-29 17:32:40 UTC  

Problem is not just the noise @Jeremy-Retard

2019-11-29 17:33:47 UTC  

It is far deeper than that.

2019-11-29 17:35:09 UTC  

Problem is that with a science like that all these so called "researchers" do is just **WASTE MAONEY!** Money that could have gone to far better hands than theirs, and the final result of all that waste would be nothing shot of stagnation and eventually-REGRESS!