Message from @Bobby

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2019-11-29 15:07:27 UTC  

The Dreaded "Not only do police shootings not occur as often as one thinks, but White people are more likely to be shot" Study

https://www.pnas.org/content/116/32/15877

2019-11-29 15:10:25 UTC  

On the topic of homosexual domestic violence and internalised self hatred, ive come across people in abusive relationships like these before and in my observation it almost always happens with more feminine males and transbian couples. something about them seems to dispose them to being abusive, ive seen no shortage of trans girls and femme gay guys taking their insecurities and personal issues out on others. there was one girl in a community i was in who would routinely call people fat and disgusting for having normal male bodies (think 140 lbs with a bit of muscle and a healthy amount of fat), and generally go about putting others down wherever she could for being less femme than her. this girl was a 110 lbs trans girl who used to be 90 lbs, and at one point during an argument over her behaviour she told everyone that her girlfriend regularly beats her. rarely do i ever see masculine people, including FtM trans people, actually being malicious towards others. the LGBT community has serious issues.

2019-11-29 15:10:53 UTC  

Princeton prof attempts to discredit story because "The study didn't look at the motivation behind the officers shooting minorities; plus it apparently didn't take into account that both Non-white and White officers can be biased against African Americans"

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2019/08/study-claims-white-police-no-more-likely-shoot-minorities-draws-fire

2019-11-29 15:13:10 UTC  

The indoctrination is strong with this one.

2019-11-29 15:15:53 UTC  

@donut eating whore
It's almost like weak people are more likely to abuse others, as the prophet Jordan Peterson has prophesized.

2019-11-29 15:18:03 UTC  

pretty much

2019-11-29 15:19:24 UTC  

its not even a peterson thing, so much as it is a common observation. the people who put down others are almost always those who are the weakest on a mental level, and feel the need to take their misery out on others.

2019-11-29 15:21:19 UTC  

Ya, I was just making a joke because what you said made so much sense.

2019-11-29 15:25:35 UTC  

@Nico94 the scariest thing is that there is a possibility that we all live in theocracies, we just don't really know the name of our gods

2019-11-29 15:28:26 UTC  

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1467-9477.2007.00176.x also going to post this in here, the largest ever study on the subject of diversity

2019-11-29 15:28:40 UTC  

@Bobby pretty wired man...<:comfort:592107824826417204>

2019-11-29 15:29:54 UTC  

@Bobby what do you mean by theocracies with unknown gods?

2019-11-29 15:30:15 UTC  

I'm not sure we all live in theocracies... but I can guarantee you that no civilization of any kind can exist without commonly held beliefs of some kind, so all communities lend themselves to some form of rule by doctrine.

2019-11-29 15:39:30 UTC  

@Jeremy-Retard read up on the cult of reason, worshipping the mind. You cannot separate the human from the divine as we have evolved in tandem. There hasn't been a single civilization without a god or gods, and the fact that we rationalized away some old gods does not mean that we haven't substituted them with others. In fact, not having a name for them is more dangerous since the people who really possess that information may meld reality to their will. It's why demons store their power in their names, stuff like Rumpelstiltskin and other mythological creatures. The blue color thing etc.

2019-11-29 15:40:48 UTC  

I think we're saying the same thing Bobby. I don't disagree with anything you said. I grew up in a christian cult, so I have face-to-face memories of what that was like.

2019-11-29 15:40:53 UTC  

Concepts like "the worker", "the volk", "equality", "freedom", "constitution", "founding fathers", "democracy" all contain within themselves a mythological magic word power lense

2019-11-29 15:42:08 UTC  

And I think that the scariest thing of all is that when you refuse to host Jesus inside your heart, you don't get a vacuum, but you get Satan's cock in that hole

2019-11-29 15:43:48 UTC  

Vacuums don't really exist, even the word vacuum fills it up

2019-11-29 15:45:12 UTC  

Neurotheology is a very interesting field and there's evidence to suggest the inability of a man to be an atheist

2019-11-29 15:49:37 UTC  

The limitations of human perception mean that only a madman goes through life without beliefs. We have to believe something, even if that something is that there's no one behind us about to stab us in the back (the mind projects where it cannot see). More importantly, we act on those beliefs. If we believe that there's someone behind us about to kill us, we will spin around and shoot a gun trying to eliminate the threat. We act on what we believe, so if we believe nonsense, we will perform evil.

Since we cannot go through life without substituting belief for where we lack knowledge, and humans will act based on their beliefs, and since we have large portions of the population who have trouble understanding lots of things that science has revealed, the absolute necessity of religion in human existence should not be questioned as religion is structured belief that at the very least attempts to get individuals to treat each other with love.

2019-11-29 15:53:07 UTC  

I think the figure of Jesus Christ is a good one to have as the basis for your beliefs, even if it created some of the worst ideologies that exist today. Especially the holiness and the percieved moral superiority of poverty

2019-11-29 15:58:04 UTC  

That said, I think bible stories should be adjusted with scientific knowledge, and that they are overdue for such an adjustment. The point of those stories is not the specifics of who ate what, how big the flood was, or what pillar of fire appeared out of nowhere, whether or not there's an all-powerful entity in the sky... the point of those stories is to express lessons on how humanity should live. That's the lesson, that's the takeaway, where the details disagree with science is where religion should concede ground and perhaps write new stories.

2019-11-29 16:19:46 UTC  

Science doesn't have to do anything with the Bible stop trying to mix the two

2019-11-29 16:20:52 UTC  

That's like saying that we should adjust Bible stories with more accurate carpentry. Stop giving science the superiority of opinion, it's a tool like any other, not a life target

2019-11-29 16:25:33 UTC  

You may as well science up Greek and Roman myths, @Jeremy-Retard

2019-11-29 16:25:50 UTC  

The psychometric history of the western civilization requires no adjusting

2019-11-29 16:30:51 UTC  

I think you misunderstand what I'm saying. Belief and Truth only overlap where our ability to understand nature is loosely certain. When specific truth is revealed that conflicts with the minutae of old beliefs, the tendency is for people to defend the beliefs, rather than recognize the real value in the belief, and adapt.

We don't believe in Noah's Ark and the Flood because we are certain the world was totally covered by ocean due to rain for a time. That's not the point of that story. We believe in that story because "God" wants us to realize that we should be preppers who are good stewards of our resources such that we, our families, and our communities will survive disasters.

2019-11-29 16:36:13 UTC  

The Bible teaches us to be lunatics who prepare for a natural disaster without any evidence whatsoever, that's what Noah's arc is about

2019-11-29 16:37:24 UTC  

The lesson to be taken away is that it's good to be a lunatic who believes in words that only oneself can hear because ultimately you'll be proven right in doing so being the sole survivor and the savior of a rich animal kingdom

2019-11-29 16:38:26 UTC  

In my opinion this is one of the worst lessons that could possibly be taught

2019-11-29 16:46:24 UTC  

Ya, but ET, you could watch the Joker from a feminist perspective and equally miss the value in it.

2019-11-29 16:47:20 UTC  

The Bible is not a story that we're supposed to just enjoy, it's a guide for morals, for beliefs, for a way of life

2019-11-29 16:49:04 UTC  

I didn't say it was entertainment.

2019-11-29 16:49:19 UTC  

You compared it to the Joker movie, which is nothing but entertainment

2019-11-29 16:50:40 UTC  

Comparison is not the same as equivocation.

2019-11-29 16:51:30 UTC  

The key difference is too essential for it to be a useful comparison. The Bible is considered the word of God. Unlike Joker, which everyone knows and agrees is a man-made piece of art.

2019-11-29 16:54:15 UTC  

The point remains, you can interpret stories infinite ways. Choosing a single interpretation that is not useful for anyone and declaring that that interpretation is "correct" only serves to destroy useful belief in service to minutae.

2019-11-29 16:54:36 UTC  

Joker isn't just entertainment though.
Out of all the comic movies, it may be least so.

2019-11-29 16:55:21 UTC  

The Bible is not a story, it's the word of God. God's word can only be interpreted in one correct way, all other ways are incorrect. Or else it wouldn't be God's word.
The Joker movie is entirely up to everyone's individual interpretation, so there is no singular truth about it to be taken away.

2019-11-29 16:56:46 UTC  

If there's only one way to interpret the bible, aren't you limiting god? Even novels are deliberately written with multiple interpretations possible.

2019-11-29 16:57:02 UTC  

while fiction = story, story =/= fiction https://i.gyazo.com/cb598f2b3ca7e43e937e5f8bb6ab0f7b.png