Message from Billy Merse in Southern Front #general


2017-07-20 19:57:04 UTC  

State of New Jersey

2017-07-20 19:57:06 UTC  

We should

2017-07-20 19:57:10 UTC  

We need to

2017-07-20 19:57:21 UTC  

I have a lawyer that will help

2017-07-20 19:57:36 UTC  

She offered her services

2017-07-20 19:58:50 UTC  

The longer it goes unchallenged, the more cause they have for it to have the illusion of truth. Our demand should be that a public apology be issued by NJ for villifying us for exercising our right of free speech.

2017-07-20 20:01:06 UTC  

Do you want to talk her billy

2017-07-20 20:01:17 UTC  

Yes

2017-07-20 20:02:41 UTC  

But, @Thomas Ryan I ask leadership to comment on this. PM if need be.

2017-07-20 20:03:46 UTC  

Did they actually state we were terrorists? I thought it was just a list of fringe groups that Posobiec slapped the label onto?

2017-07-20 20:04:59 UTC  

If it's a positive claim issued by a government agency, it should be treated as serious. They have no authority to make "suggestive" gestures.

2017-07-20 20:05:49 UTC  

That's defamation. If they make the claim, the burden of proof is on them to establish their reasoning.

2017-07-20 20:06:55 UTC  

Let's find the page that supposedly mentioned it then.

2017-07-20 20:08:52 UTC  

Sheeit

2017-07-20 20:09:01 UTC  

What's going on?

2017-07-20 20:12:15 UTC  

we turrist now apparently

2017-07-20 20:12:35 UTC  

makes sense

2017-07-20 20:12:44 UTC  

NJ recently labeled antifa a terrorist org

2017-07-20 20:12:46 UTC  

and, as we know

2017-07-20 20:12:54 UTC  

the alt-right and the SJWs are exactly the same

2017-07-20 20:15:41 UTC  

@Thomas Ryan here is one thing that needs to be challenged as well.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/314228481804468235/337689040004448256/Screen_Shot_2017-07-20_at_3.14.45_PM.png

2017-07-20 20:15:46 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/314228481804468235/337689060682366978/AnarchistExtremists-Antifa.pdf

2017-07-20 20:17:19 UTC  

You want to challenge someone calling us white supremacists?

2017-07-20 20:21:09 UTC  

Not "someone". But a government agency should be challenged. MSM, ADL, SPLC, etc are all private organizations. They get plausible deniability by claiming, "That's our opinion." It's a cowardly move. But, they get to play with sophistry like that. Government, on the other hands, does not. They're bound to the rule of law -- which is a philosophical position. i.e. They're bound to logic and reason.

2017-07-20 20:22:09 UTC  

In order for them to make these claims, they have to substantiate their position.

2017-07-20 20:22:54 UTC  

For example: We are not a white supremacist group. White nationalists at best.

2017-07-20 20:23:40 UTC  

So you propose sending them an email? Or making a big stink about it, playing the victim card?

2017-07-20 20:25:11 UTC  

No sir, we would be challenging their claim in order to set the record straight. The burden of proof is on them to substantiate their claims.

2017-07-20 20:25:19 UTC  

They're calling us out.

2017-07-20 20:28:09 UTC  

Claim 1: "Traditional White Supremacist Organizations Attempt to “Rebrand” Re-stating claim 1: "New Generation of White Supremacists"

2017-07-20 20:28:47 UTC  

Via what lines of communication would we challenge their claim?

2017-07-20 20:30:06 UTC  

Claim 2 re our actions: "The group also placed racist fliers on religious and cultural institutions in New Jersey to intimidate minority populations."

2017-07-20 20:32:52 UTC  

Make a public statement in the news paper. A lawyer could answer this best. But, it has to be a formal outlet. In the past, people used to place notices in public-ations. And that would count as a formal notice. But, these rules change.

2017-07-20 20:33:41 UTC  

We do NOT have to respond to them directly. We just need to make a formal publication.

2017-07-20 20:34:13 UTC  

How would we make a statement in the newspaper?

2017-07-20 20:34:36 UTC  

You pay for your notification to be printed.

2017-07-20 20:38:21 UTC  

Lindsey Graham is supporting illegal aliens.

2017-07-20 20:38:26 UTC  

And the DREAM Act.

2017-07-20 20:39:25 UTC  

How about this... (1) I'll write a response to the governments publication. You review it and change what you want. (2) We find where we need to post a formal publication to serve as a rebuttle to their claims.