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I do hope I was not included in the hippy part
Bc I hate their lifestyles lol
I’m of the same opinion; I believe God created the world, but has the inability to directly interact with it.
So Deism?
Deists are very selective about historic documents. They accept the testimony of Suetonius that Julius Caesar crossed the Rubicon, but they reject the much more widely documented testimony of Moses (and others) about the Judeo-Christian faith. Why did Suetonius speak the truth, but Moses was a liar?
Of course, the ultimate event which disproves deism is the Incarnation. If we can prove (beyond reasonable doubt) that Jesus Christ is the Incarnate Son of God then we absolutely disprove deism.
"There is no evidence from nature and reason alone that God is good. Nor is there any evidence from nature or reason alone that the good life includes care for others unless it benefits oneself."
You even learn of Jesus’ existence in history class, I think it’s hard to deny that much.
Then comes someone who says “how could you know? You weren’t born at that time” & etc.. then I guess every historical figure we have documented doesn’t exist either... lol
jesus for sure existed, its everything else thats up for debate
I would say that Jesus exists right here and right now. Those who are obsessed with the temporary physical forms as opposed to the spiritual, do not know Chirst or God, and they love death. Spirit is not a physical measurable natural phenomenon, and yet all that is manifest is a result of what was once in the spirit. But why worship the creature when we can worship the creator?
Proverbs 8:36 "But those who fail to find me harm themselves; all who hate me love death."
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Very true
Even the way so many people scramble to find all this actual proof of biblical events in order to try to disprove it is interesting to me. You know everything already in spirit.
Interesting points, @J_G_ . I agree with you, buddy. The obsession we have with the material and physical prevents us from finding God from the inside. Do you believe that we generate our reality with thought - that the world will manifest it for you? If all that manifests is a result of what was once in the spirit, does that mean the spirit is the key to understanding reality?
I think that everything that now exists at one time only existed in the spirit or in imagination, but some things happen that we don't necessarily anticipate. But if you believe in God, then God probably imagined it. However, physical reality is in a way dead even if it appears alive. So maybe life is the process of entropy from an ideal spiritual form like an exploding and then eaten popcorn kernel?
I'm kind of fading it's almost 2am.
It's all good, man. It's like in the Tao, watching a thousand things falling away. Life is fleeting; alive, and dead. It is dead as soon as it happens, but it is alive while it happens. Then it is forever gone.
But then who knew it even happened?
That's a good question.
probably ideas thoughts and memories are a trail of breadcrumbs we use to go away from and return to God
it's fascinating that we get a sensation of isolation at all.
Right. Isolation can all just be in the mind, though. A lot of it is our own ego.
The answer to biblical Q is ; Both. Of man through God. 😁👍
Came from man
Created by God
I’m calling into the show on Friday to tell you why!
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That fist is 4 u tiredof bull
@PastPresentFuture thanks Timmy!
Ayeee
Well if you wanna play semantics .. Women came FROM God... But we are OF man... Nice trick Jesse. Love it
@PastPresentFuture how come u think that?
Because it’s true
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Tune into the radio show on Friday
Hmmm preprare to read and translate :
We will start simple.
Jesus didn't have internet.
He never told you to kiss crosses, churches, and to celebrate priests. He told you about good behavior, and about one god.
He told you god's rules.