The Creation was not complete until Adam was created, so its years are numbered from his birth. Before that hominids had only animal souls, and things were running on a "divine calendar" where long lengths are time are contracted more and more the closer you get to the Big Bang.

Now, with this creation… which was like a small fine speck [i.e. the singularity before the Big Bang] and had no substance were created…all the creations in the heavens and on the earth. -- Ramban's commentary on Genesis (~1200 AD)

“It does not say, “Let there be evening’ but ‘And there was evening’; we see from here that there was a system of time beforehand.” Even though time is a creation, and before creation there was no time, it refers to time in regard to those two thousand years. For those days were not as human days, but rather a day from those years was of the days about which there is no comprehension. This is as it is written, (Job 36:26) “Are Your years as those of men?" -- R. Bachya, Commentary on Genesis 1:3 (from the 1200s)

One of God’s days is a thousand years, as it says, “For a thousand years are in Your eyes as a fleeting yesterday.” Since one of our years is 365 ¼ days, a year on High is 365,250 our years. -- Isaac of Akko (from the 1200s)

This seven thousand year cycle is merely one Sabbatical cycle amidst a larger cycle of seven Sabbatical cycles and a Jubilee. Hence, the total duration of the universe is 49,000 years (7 x 7,000). Some understand that the world is now in its sixth Sabbatical cycle, which would mean that the world is 42,000 [divine] years old.” -- Nechunya b. Hakanah (from the 1st century AD)

365,250 years (per divine year) x 42,000 divine years = 15.3 billion years old, remarkably close to the modern understanding of 13.82 billion years

https://i0.wp.com/ladderofjacob.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/timelines12.png?resize=620%2C451&ssl=1

Woooowww

I was literally this morning trying to think that the whole making life in so many days was probably a lot larger than just what we know to be a day. That's incredible.

I don't believe that Sar

That is misinterpretation

Creation was six days

Big bang not real

And when God said to him 1 day is like a thousand, he's showing us how time doesn't matter to Him like it does to us.

Big Bang theory was formulated by a priest. The name "Big Bang" is supposed to be a derisive name for his crazy theory. He based it on these opinions going back at least to the 1200s

Hm I don't exactly believe in big bang, I bank on god, but I think it's just having an open mind in knowing that it could have taken god a lot longer of a time that we are able to conceive

When atheists figured out the Christian Big Bang they were making fun of was real, they started making fun of Christians claiming that Big Bang was an atheist theory and that Christians really believe in young earth and flat earth.

But rednecks heard these claims that Christians believe in young earth and flat earth and started yelling "dangnabbit if it's what Christians believe then it's what I believe"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myth_of_the_flat_Earth#History

Young Earth Creationism (literal interpretation of Genesis 1) was invented in the 1900s. It was never mainstream Christian belief: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Young_Earth_creationism#Christian_fundamentalism_and_belief_in_a_young_Earth

I feel there are things in the bible which should be taken literally, and those that should not and were probably meant in a philosophical nature. But a lot of times we see people either take things they really shouldn't as not literal, like the order of life and gender roles, while taking other things like the creation process and such quite literally.

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ponder that thousands of years ago, in ancient India, they were measuring (rather quantifying) time to a three hundredths of a microsecond, all the way to trillions of years. ponder how or why they would have needed that sort of precision, or how anyone back then would have even conceived of the very thought of such units. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hindu_units_of_time

Sar I believe in young earth, not flat Earth. Nothing wrong with rednecks. We built America.

The Bible is historical. The only parts that aren't literal are purposely the parables, poems, and metaphors.

I disagree with all that @Stopvegans but somehow Jesse's message appeals to us both

Actually I do agree with "Nothing wrong with rednecks. We built America."

but everything else is wrong wrong wrong!

@FivePointPalm I don't care if you disagree with the truth.

@FivePointPalm It's not an atheist channel.

I see, so it's your way or it's atheism huh?

@FivePointPalm if you don't believe the Bible, you're bad. It's good vs Evil.

I don't believe it's a book that's suppose to serve as a literal historical record or as a scientific document

I also don't believe it's suppose to teach you how to play the violin either

The Bible is the truth

It doesn't matter what you believe. Truth is truth.

Children of the lie push evolution.

And they say homosexuality is a Bible interpretation issue.

do you get your values from the bible or from God?

Do you have any values?

I see, you couldn't answer the question

anyway gotta go to work, nice sparring with you

ttyl

Bye👌

@FivePointPalm we shared the same opinion then <:GWpinkuKittyHeheh:392308492624723973>